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**Chris** · June 20, 2002, 20:20

OK...we talked to DT about this (actually Russ did) and we got the go ahead to make it a sponsored event.

An announcement will be forthcoming on the DefCon web page soon.

As for the contest--I will post the rules and prize info in the next few days.

A few things I can tell you up front. Those of you interested in the contest will need to register with me (I will be in the Vendor Area almost all the time and pretty easy to find...look for the red shirt).

I am not sure what the registration cut off will be etc. but will post that info as I decide it.

Finally, since I am still developing the rules and general layout of the contest, any suggestions are appreciated. Drop me a line (chris@defcon.org) with ideas. As it stands right now I am planning to take the basic idea that Russ detailed in the other thread and expand/modify it a bit.

More to come soon....

**converge** · June 20, 2002, 20:27

so should we nix contacting blackwave? I really don't care about a contest... the two things I want are ) the fun and gain of being on a team ) the data collaboration at the end... I'm hoping the latter won't be a casualty of formalizing the event

**Chris** · June 20, 2002, 20:36

Originally posted by c0nv3r9
so should we nix contacting blackwave? I really don't care about a contest... the two things I want are ) the fun and gain of being on a team ) the data collaboration at the end... I'm hoping the latter won't be a casualty of formalizing the event

No worries. First of all...the data will all be made available to anyone who wants it. As for being on a team, that hasn't changed, in fact, pretty much the only thing that has changed is that there will be a prize awarded to at least one team.

If you have any ideas for improving the contest let me know.

**Chris** · June 20, 2002, 20:47

Originally posted by c0nv3r9
so should we nix contacting blackwave?

Sorry...forgot to answer your question. I emailed blackwave and asked him to help out with the contest since he was willing to take the bull by the horns and start putting things together. Assuming that he still wants to, he will be an official volunteer on this contest. So, you should/can still contact blackwave. I would ask that you CC me (chris@defcon.org) on anything contest related so that we are on the same page.

Again, any ideas to make this more fun are greatly appreciated, sponsorship of the contest is not meant to diminish the "fun" in any way. In fact, it will hopefully enhance it.

**Fused** · June 22, 2002, 19:13

can anyone explain

can any onw tell me what these games are about its my first yr goin.

**blackwave** · June 22, 2002, 19:28

Re: can anyone explain

Originally posted by Fused
can any onw tell me what these games are about its my first yr goin.

The official rules and gameplay will be announced :)

But here is a basic rundown of wardriving in itself.

You have some type of portable device.
You have some type of antenna(internal/external/whatever)
You have some type of GPS unit.
You have some type of software that is made to seek and find 802.11b access points, and it logs their GPS coords, SSID, MAC, derives the vendor, signal strength, WEP, channel... etc.

After all this data is gathered you can import it into mapping software and using the gps it will show where (depending on the accuracy of the gps, and the velocity you were traveling) the AP signal is. (or was at the time you passed by).

In short you drive around with this rig and scan the airwaves to later generate a visual representation of the wireless networks in the area. :)

The data is then analyzed ...More to come... )

**Fused** · June 22, 2002, 22:30

cool i wanna tag along

if this is at the con do u think any one would let me tag along with them i dont got any of that stuff but i am good with maps and stuff, and i cant really get lost.

**blackwave** · June 23, 2002, 00:37

Re: cool i wanna tag along

Originally posted by Fused
if this is at the con do u think any one would let me tag along with them i dont got any of that stuff but i am good with maps and stuff, and i cant really get lost.

If you are interested in joining the wardrive effort send your info as per the start of this thread. :)

**astcell** · June 23, 2002, 19:51

I'd love to be a part of this but I doubt I have what I need. I have driven around with my laptop and wireless and found schools and terminal servers running, but that's not enough for this is it.

**blackwave** · June 23, 2002, 19:57

Originally posted by astcell
I'd love to be a part of this but I doubt I have what I need. I have driven around with my laptop and wireless and found schools and terminal servers running, but that's not enough for this is it.

As we get more and more emails we take notice of who has what listed in the rig list. If you have stumbled before you probably are fine. All really required is:

You have some type of portable device.
You have some type of antenna(internal/external/whatever)
You have some type of GPS unit.
You have some type of software that is made to seek and find 802.11b access points, and it logs their GPS coords, SSID, MAC, derives the vendor, signal strength, WEP, channel... etc.

-otherwise you can always be a dedicated driver. It is a team effort and therefore requires some type of teamwork.

**astcell** · June 23, 2002, 21:43

ahh scanners

Remember being able to buy books that told you all the police scanner frequencies in use? They sure helped in finding the action.

No doubt the same is available for the Internet. We can always find out what business and government offices have IP addresses in Las Vegas, and go from there. Not that we would have a scanner book, or an IP book. We'd have to ping everyone in the yellow pages. But it would be an interesting start. Has anyone tried this before?

**blackwave** · June 23, 2002, 21:48

Re: ahh scanners

Originally posted by astcell
Has anyone tried this before?

Google has some advantages in searching for say data not intended to be so public, yet be set on public servers.

Often such servers hold directions on how to link to their network via wifi. I see this all the time for campuses all around, even including WEP keys... I am sure a little more research could prove the same for such intended targets... if all else fails dumpster diving/trashing always seems to do the trick :) Though that is alot of trash :)

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