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  • Club81
    Member
    • Aug 2008
    • 168

    #16
    Re: Public speaking workshop

    some good stuff here in "The Talk Talk"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wb2b69JNU8

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    • bjaming
      Registered Luser
      • Feb 2009
      • 185

      #17
      Re: Public speaking workshop

      This could even be applicable outside of the con. For the most part we're all in the industry in one capacity or another, and let's be frank a large part of our ability to succeed professionally is based on our ability to communicate. Not just with other people on our own teams, but in some cases C-level management and directors in order to secure budgets, "sell" the projects we want to work on, etc etc. All of the speaking techniques you can apply to a large group and be applied to a much smaller one can't it? I guess it kind of depends on how specific you're thinking this session would be, would it be general or very specific to "Technical Support" during a speech?
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      • securityninja
        Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 26

        #18
        Re: Public speaking workshop

        I hadn't thought of it that much to be honest but I like the idea of it being more general in nature. I liked the idea of this workshop because I see so many people with cool talks but they struggle to "talk".

        I was inspired to post on the thread again over the weekend because I saw some talks at Shmoocon which were painful to watch but the content looked so good.

        I think that the workshop should cover more than just talking at a conference as long as the goal of the workshop is to help technical people explain technical topics to non technical people.

        SN

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        • streaker69
          • Mar 2008
          • 1141

          #19
          Re: Public speaking workshop

          Originally posted by securityninja

          I was inspired to post on the thread again over the weekend because I saw some talks at Shmoocon which were painful to watch but the content looked so good.


          SN
          Not only were some of them painful to watch, but I believe some of the speakers were in pain just giving them. Ask Bruce about his bruise.
          A third party security audit is the IT equivalent of a colonoscopy. It's long, intrusive, very uncomfortable, and when it's done, you'll have seen things you really didn't want to see, and you'll never forget that you've had one.

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          • valkyrie
            Member
            • Jan 2006
            • 360

            #20
            Re: Public speaking workshop

            Originally posted by securityninja
            I hadn't thought of it that much to be honest but I like the idea of it being more general in nature. I liked the idea of this workshop because I see so many people with cool talks but they struggle to "talk".

            I was inspired to post on the thread again over the weekend because I saw some talks at Shmoocon which were painful to watch but the content looked so good.

            I think that the workshop should cover more than just talking at a conference as long as the goal of the workshop is to help technical people explain technical topics to non technical people.

            SN
            There is this really cool nationwide organization that has been around for some years? You may have heard of it -- it's called Toastmasters, International. They exist to specifically provide a venue in which people can learn to convey their thoughts without peeing their pants, having a panic attack and generally making sad pandas of themselves and the people who paid good money to come and hear them communicate their thoughts in a logical, cohesive manner. And there is probably one in YOUR town.

            Of course, up until recently I misguidedly thought that was one of the objectives of public school education, but I digress...

            This is not a commercial endorsement of Toastmasters, Intl. You can thank me later...

            Regards,

            valkyrie
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            • Club81
              Member
              • Aug 2008
              • 168

              #21
              Re: Public speaking workshop

              Originally posted by valkyrie
              There is this really cool nationwide organization that has been around for some years? You may have heard of it -- it's called Toastmasters, International. They exist to specifically provide a venue in which people can learn to convey their thoughts without peeing their pants, having a panic attack and generally making sad pandas of themselves and the people who paid good money to come and hear them communicate their thoughts in a logical, cohesive manner. And there is probably one in YOUR town.

              Of course, up until recently I misguidedly thought that was one of the objectives of public school education, but I digress...

              This is not a commercial endorsement of Toastmasters, Intl. You can thank me later...

              Regards,

              valkyrie
              __________________________________________________ ______
              sapere aude
              A lot of folks have mentioned that Toastmasters is a very applicable group. If Toastmasters want to come to the CON and provide a workshop, more power to 'em. I think the point of this discussion (and a possible THUR session) was to provide Toastmaster-like pointers to CON goers.

              Or did I miss something along the way here?

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              • securityninja
                Member
                • Jun 2009
                • 26

                #22
                Re: Public speaking workshop

                That's a fair point Valkyrie, so we will just advise people to visit their local Toastmasters group instead.

                SN

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                • bjaming
                  Registered Luser
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 185

                  #23
                  Re: Public speaking workshop

                  Originally posted by valkyrie
                  There is this really cool nationwide organization... called Toastmasters, International.
                  Speaking of digressing, does anyone else think it odd that a national organization has the word international in it's name?

                  ;)
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                  • Club81
                    Member
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 168

                    #24
                    Re: Public speaking workshop

                    So is the idea of a THUR session of "how to speak to a group" dead and we relying on Toastmasters to submit to the CFP?

                    Or do we want to rally the troops and submit? Maybe to the 1,200 second track? 20 minutes of useful pointers to "chown your local Toastmasters upon your return from DEFCON".

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                    • securityninja
                      Member
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 26

                      #25
                      Re: Public speaking workshop

                      If people really think it would be useful/people want to see it I'm more than happy to work with you on it.

                      I have submitted my own CFP for a talk I'd like to give but I'm more than happy to do a joint one on this topic.

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