Research on Cyber Warfare

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Like streaker69 said + depends on the audience. If you give a presentation to people who don't question things (like executives) all you are doing is flexing your speaking skills. If you are speaking to a crowd that challenges you, then you learn something on top of flexing your speaking skills, etc.

Also, not to be combative, but I learned a while ago that people stop taking you seriously when you put 'lol' throughout your posts. It makes you seem kind of childish.

Now, back on topic: AgentDarkApple, what I've read of your paper is amazing so far, I'm going between it and work. Once I get a chance to finish it, I'll edit this post with feedback :)

cheers mate. ill keep that point about lol in mind

[AgentDarkApple]

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As far as I know, my professor isn't "frontin". Since it's an online class we use a discussion board for interactivity, and her input and thought-provoking questions have always been enlightening. She wants to make sure we actually understand the material, so I'd hope she holds herself to the same standard when researching and preparing her speeches/presentations. Since this class was on Information Assurance, we didn't get into a lot of in-depth stuff, but I look forward to taking her Cyber Crime and Computer Forensics classes later.

Hahaha @ the Gore thing - I'd have so much to say about that if political discussions weren't banned here. But from a treehugger standpoint (I'm a high tech environmentalist, go figure), the top things he can do to show he has learned something from his own book are to ditch his cattle ranch (cow farts contribute to pollution, you know) and his huge mansion (power hog much?).

[g3k_]

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lol @ using Al Gore. OK Im stumped lol. I have found though that when speaking people tend to challenge the speaker. This usually prompts the speaker to learn more or at least gain enough knowledge to defend against those challenges in the future. Which basically means they learn as they speak at more events.

But who knows lol, maybe that reasoning is flawed. Its what Ive seen so far though. Good post btw streaker69

Like streaker69 said + depends on the audience. If you give a presentation to people who don't question things (like executives) all you are doing is flexing your speaking skills. If you are speaking to a crowd that challenges you, then you learn something on top of flexing your speaking skills, etc.

Also, not to be combative, but I learned a while ago that people stop taking you seriously when you put 'lol' throughout your posts. It makes you seem kind of childish.

Now, back on topic: AgentDarkApple, what I've read of your paper is amazing so far, I'm going between it and work. Once I get a chance to finish it, I'll edit this post with feedback :)

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I think your reasoning is flawed. Someone who speaks at 100 engagements may just be good at speaking and not actually be learning anything. They'll get progressively better at speaking their own knowledge, but may not actually learn anything new about whatever they're speaking about. I think Algore is a perfect example of this.

lol @ using Al Gore. OK Im stumped lol. I have found though that when speaking people tend to challenge the speaker. This usually prompts the speaker to learn more or at least gain enough knowledge to defend against those challenges in the future. Which basically means they learn as they speak at more events.

But who knows lol, maybe that reasoning is flawed. Its what Ive seen so far though. Good post btw streaker69

[streaker69]

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lol. touche. A bit more blunt than I stated but I cant argue your statement valkyrie. Gotta admit though, when someone speaks at over 100 functions they're bound to learn quite a bit. In fact probably more than the average individual who isn't familiar with speaking at a similar amount of engagements. So as one speaks their knowledge will progressively get better. 100 engagements is pretty good. Someone who has that amount of experience will most likely gain an amount of knowledge greater than both you and I (unless they are completely obtuse). Should we be so arrogant as to say the quality of her speakings were not sufficient?

I think your reasoning is flawed. Someone who speaks at 100 engagements may just be good at speaking and not actually be learning anything. They'll get progressively better at speaking their own knowledge, but may not actually learn anything new about whatever they're speaking about. I think Algore is a perfect example of this.

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Yippee for her. Not wishing to dis someone? What matters is if what they had to say was actually relevant.

Regards,

valkyrie
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lol. touche. A bit more blunt than I stated but I cant argue your statement valkyrie. Gotta admit though, when someone speaks at over 100 functions they're bound to learn quite a bit. In fact probably more than the average individual who isn't familiar with speaking at a similar amount of engagements. So as one speaks their knowledge will progressively get better. 100 engagements is pretty good. Someone who has that amount of experience will most likely gain an amount of knowledge greater than both you and I (unless they are completely obtuse). Should we be so arrogant as to say the quality of her speakings were not sufficient?

[valkyrie]

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Nice job on the paper. Looks like Karen is a pretty knowledgeable teacher too :)

Apparently she has spoken at over 100 engagements throughout Pennsylvania on the CSI Effect, the Dangers of Social Network Sites, Cyberbullying and Cyberstalking.

Yippee for her. Not wishing to dis someone? What matters is if what they had to say was actually relevant.

Regards,

valkyrie
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Nice job on the paper. Looks like Karen is a pretty knowledgeable teacher too :)

Apparently she has spoken at over 100 engagements throughout Pennsylvania on the CSI Effect, the Dangers of Social Network Sites, Cyberbullying and Cyberstalking.

[valkyrie]

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valkyrie, thanks for the compliment, and thank you again for your help!

No compliment. You earned props. And I didn't help. Just gave fodder for thought. Glad you jazzed your instructor and you are happy with results of your paper. It's a good one.

Regards,

valkyrie
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[AgentDarkApple]

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valkyrie, thanks for the compliment, and thank you again for your help!

[valkyrie]

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As promised, I will share the final version of my paper here. I appreciate all the help and advice you guys gave me. I got a grade of 100 on the paper. Although some of you may find points to criticize, from an academic standpoint it was a pretty good paper. I have left the professor's comments intact. I'm not sure how they display in Word, but in Apple Pages, they are on the lefthand side.

The paper can be found here http://public.me.com/agentdarkapple. Obviously, it's the file named InformationWarfare.doc. I will likely begin posting my completed and graded papers there to share with whomever is interested.

Nice job girl. :-) Cogent and well put together.

Regards,

valkyrie
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[AgentDarkApple]

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As promised, I will share the final version of my paper here. I appreciate all the help and advice you guys gave me. I got a grade of 100 on the paper. Although some of you may find points to criticize, from an academic standpoint it was a pretty good paper. I have left the professor's comments intact. I'm not sure how they display in Word, but in Apple Pages, they are on the lefthand side.

The paper can be found here http://public.me.com/agentdarkapple. Obviously, it's the file named InformationWarfare.doc. I will likely begin posting my completed and graded papers there to share with whomever is interested.

I do plan to compile the research articles/sources at a later date. Although I did not use all of them in the paper (I ended up with hundreds), I plan to hang on to them for future reference. I still welcome any new information or suggestions on the topic, as Information Warfare is my big area of interest for research and eventually for a job. I am currently passing suggestions around the IT/InfoSec department at my school to see if they will develop a Master's program focused on network-centric information warfare.

[Thorn]

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Beat me to it. :-) SANS News Bites; I still think it should be called SANS News Bytes.

xor

Nope, it was InfoSec News list and at least one other. There are several I subscribe to.

[xor]

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@ AgentDarkApple

This popped up this morning on a couple of lists I monitor, and may be of interest if you're still working on your paper.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/njmag...91114_3145.php

Beat me to it. :-) SANS News Bites; I still think it should be called SANS News Bytes.

xor

[AgentDarkApple]

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Another new article. Please excuse the vomitous overuse of "cyber" lol.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-10...orsPicksArea.0

The actual McAfee report

http://resources.mcafee.com/content/...gyReport2009NF