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  • #16
    Re: Security Toolkit?

    Originally posted by sintax_error View Post
    On that same note, no one has brought up the issue of hardware.
    Sorry... it's a MacBook that I got new last year. 2.4 GHz Intel core 2 duo processor. It only has 2GB of memory, which makes me a little uneasy about trying too much with it. I only have the stock airport card for it right now. I am thinking about getting a MacBook Pro next year with a faster processor and more RAM. I do need a new and better router, as all I have is an Airport Express that I got back in 2005. I just got a new car in April, so a lot of other purchases have had to wait
    Last edited by AgentDarkApple; December 14, 2009, 04:27.
    "Why is it drug addicts and computer afficionados are both called users? " - Clifford Stoll

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    • #17
      Re: Security Toolkit?

      Originally posted by sintax_error View Post
      Sir, I must protest. For my distro surely must be the superior of those in question.
      http://verens.com/archives/2004/09/2...vs-everything/

      “You had to do what with the seat?”

      Always cracks me up. :-)

      xor
      Just because you can doesn't mean you should. This applies to making babies, hacking, and youtube videos.

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      • #18
        Re: Security Toolkit?

        I don't think I've ever seen that page. Beautiful.
        "You have cubed asscheeks?"... "Do you not?"

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        • #19
          Re: Security Toolkit?

          Originally posted by xor View Post
          http://verens.com/archives/2004/09/2...vs-everything/

          “You had to do what with the seat?”

          Always cracks me up. :-)

          xor
          Obviously written by a Linux zealot, since they made no mention of needing to recompile the kernel after building your seat.

          PS: WinME was the best OS ever written.
          Last edited by streaker69; December 14, 2009, 12:22.
          A third party security audit is the IT equivalent of a colonoscopy. It's long, intrusive, very uncomfortable, and when it's done, you'll have seen things you really didn't want to see, and you'll never forget that you've had one.

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          • #20
            Re: Security Toolkit?

            Originally posted by streaker69 View Post
            PS: WinME was the best OS ever written.
            Yeah, if you like having fits of suicidal depression.
            Thorn
            "If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning." - Catherine Aird

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            • #21
              Re: Security Toolkit?

              Originally posted by xor View Post
              http://verens.com/archives/2004/09/2...vs-everything/

              “You had to do what with the seat?”

              Always cracks me up. :-)

              xor
              but I enjoy the in-flight movie...
              "Why is it drug addicts and computer afficionados are both called users? " - Clifford Stoll

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              • #22
                Re: Security Toolkit?

                Yeah, there's a few people around here who know Kismet well :)

                The Backtrack cd's are the best bang since they have (just about) every tool you could ever need and most of the annoying crap with driver patches and library builds is already taken care of. I use it in some cases, but lately I have taken to building my toolkit manually mostly since I track svn versions of many things and dependency changes can cause havoc with a liveCD distro.

                I think that Backtracks tool list if the best place to look as well as those commercial ones listed on sectools.org as xor posted.
                Never drink anything larger than your head!





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                • #23
                  Re: Security Toolkit?

                  Originally posted by xor View Post
                  "...clean copies of Microsoft OS'es do to work on. "
                  Currently the MAPS subscription ($300) from Microsoft is offering the following OS & apps. :

                  Win Vista Business & Ultimate (32 & 64bit) x1 Lic.
                  Win 7 Pro x10 Lic. (yes 10) , Win 7 Ult, Win Server 2008 std (x86 & x64)(physical & virtual) (x2)
                  System Data Center Protection Manager '07, System Center Essentials '07
                  Exchange Server 2010 Std., Exchange Server '07, Office 2007 Ent
                  Office Project Pro'07 Office Visio Pro'07, Sharepoint Srvr'07(std & ent), SQL srvr std'08
                  Win SBS std(physical & virtual), ISA server 2007, Office Comm. Server '07, MS Dynamics CRM 4.0, Win Essential Bus. Srvr Mgt/Msng/Security, MS Office Communicator '07
                  Forefront Client, Map Point '09, Terminal Server CAL x10(user/connections)
                  Just because you're paranoid it doesn't mean they aint out to get ya!

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                  • #24
                    Re: Security Toolkit?

                    Originally posted by renderman View Post
                    Yeah, there's a few people around here who know Kismet well :)
                    I pay attention ;)


                    Everybody, thanks for the suggestions! I am going to look into this stuff and see what works on my current laptop, but once I get the new MacBook Pro I will probably use this old one as a sad little target system. My husband wants a new computer too, so maybe I can add his current XP netbook into the mix.
                    "Why is it drug addicts and computer afficionados are both called users? " - Clifford Stoll

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                    • #25
                      Re: Security Toolkit?

                      Originally posted by AgentDarkApple View Post
                      I pay attention ;)

                      ...once I get the new MacBook Pro I will probably use this old one as a sad little target system...
                      Older IBM Think Centre boxen work well for this. Cheap, easy to come by, and work well for a variety of purposes.
                      "You have cubed asscheeks?"... "Do you not?"

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                      • #26
                        Re: Security Toolkit?

                        Since Helix went subscription/pay for copy has anyone had any fun with DEFT?

                        Link: http://www.deftlinux.net/
                        Originally posted by Ellen
                        Do I wish we could all be like hexjunkie? Heck yes I do. :) That would rock.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Security Toolkit?

                          Originally posted by hexjunkie View Post
                          Since Helix went subscription/pay for copy has anyone had any fun with DEFT?

                          Link: http://www.deftlinux.net/
                          I have not heard of it until now, but thanks! I grabbed BackTrack4 and De-ICE, and I will try this too.
                          "Why is it drug addicts and computer afficionados are both called users? " - Clifford Stoll

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                          • #28
                            Re: Security Toolkit?

                            An alternative to De-Ice I've heard of is Damn Vulnerable Linux. Now, I've used De-Ice briefly and found it relatively informative to the beginner. Some of the clues are a little obvious at times, but it gets the concept across. The different "levels" are a good feature as well.

                            I haven't really done too much with DVL. I was about to yesterday, but our power went out and I just said "fuck it" and went to sleep. That said, has anyone here worked on/finished DVL? I've gotten somewhat mixed reviews on it, but those were mostly from people who had just tried it for 5 minutes and made a decision right then and there.
                            Mundus Vult Decipi

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                            • #29
                              Re: Security Toolkit?

                              Hey here are some new ones, Pentoo is decent, not nearly as good as BackTrack but nonetheless something different. I personally really like cmd line linux and thus gravitate towards knoppixSTD which is great if you wanna do some reading and have a good VM or a machine that has a swap that can be mounted (works best this way). It has just about every tool in the open source world and fluxbox (which some people hate but I use for both Lin/Unix) makes it super versatile. The entire structure of the OS is run from root which is a tad bit dangerous being that its loaded with every tool and tool development platform that an intruder would need to really mess your machine up(It also requires a dual core processor to function optimally, which may or may not be a problem). Apart from offensive tools, it has built in honeypots, forensics tools, crypt, the classic vulnerability scanners and exploit crafters and a few that are kinda rare. It also has more firewall options than you would realistically need. That being said knoppix is not everyones choice but hey give it a try. I also tried nUbuntu.... for about 5 minuets, I personally would not suggest this product being that the alternatives are far superior and the concept of stripping down Ubuntu, building it back up, then basically making it like a Slax build is not my personal preference. Also the forum seems to lack admins, witness-able by the massive spammage. It does have a small fan base though. Helix is a good forensics tool as well, I also run the honeywall software from the Honeynet project for research (It is based off CentOS), pretty decent stuff IMO.

                              On a side note, STD on a school comp...kinda fun. Pure RAM-load rape.
                              OpenBSD for the functional paranoid... Live only kernels for the nonfunctional one

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                              • #30
                                Re: Security Toolkit?

                                RTKsbox35, thanks. I have been trying random stuff in VMWare Fusion per suggestions in this thread. I am waiting it out to see if some new MacBook Pros are released in March, and once I have a more powerful processor and more RAM, I will likely do some more experimenting. I checked out the Knoppix STD site, and it definitely interests me.
                                "Why is it drug addicts and computer afficionados are both called users? " - Clifford Stoll

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