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    Short version is that Grey, Deviant and I got royally hosed by SAS on our way back from Norway.

    I know Deviant will have an awesome writeup, but rest assured, the security screwups and stupidity were monumental. International incident quality.

    We want to make sure all the security agencies involved know about this. If anyone has contacts in DHS, CBP, Newark Airport security or the NY/NJ port authority or anyone who might be interested in violations of air travel security regulations or customs oddities, please PM me or take note of when Dev posts his write up and forward it along. We want to make sure this gets the attention it deserves.

    Render
    Never drink anything larger than your head!






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    Originally posted by renderman View Post
    Short version is that Grey, Deviant and I got royally hosed by SAS on our way back from Norway.

    I know Deviant will have an awesome writeup, but rest assured, the security screwups and stupidity were monumental. International incident quality.

    We want to make sure all the security agencies involved know about this. If anyone has contacts in DHS, CBP, Newark Airport security or the NY/NJ port authority or anyone who might be interested in violations of air travel security regulations or customs oddities, please PM me or take note of when Dev posts his write up and forward it along. We want to make sure this gets the attention it deserves.

    Render
    You were assaulted by the SAS; British Special Forces http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Air_Service For a second there, I thought that they finally caught up with Render.

    I'm assuming you are referring to this SAS http://www.flysas.com/en/us/?WT.mc_id=US15&vst=true.

    Unless a bunch of accountants rousted you SAS; http://www.sas.com/

    xor
    Just because you can doesn't mean you should. This applies to making babies, hacking, and youtube videos.

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      Originally posted by xor View Post
      I'm assuming you are referring to this SAS http://www.flysas.com/en/us/?WT.mc_id=US15&vst=true.
      I'm glad you clarified that. The only SAS I know about is the British special forces, and I couldn't figure out why they be bothering Render, et al at Newark.
      Thorn
      "If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning." - Catherine Aird

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      • #4
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        Originally posted by Thorn View Post
        I'm glad you clarified that. The only SAS I know about is the British special forces, and I couldn't figure out why they be bothering Render, et al at Newark.
        Scandinavian Airlines, yes.
        <Shakes Head>

        I've lost count the number of international violations we saw
        Never drink anything larger than your head!





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        • #5
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          I am looking forward to reading the entire story, I wonder if it would be possible to get some sort of response from SAS.
          Network Jesus died for your SYN

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          • #6
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            Can't wait to read it.
            PGP Key: https://defcon.org/html/links/dtangent.html

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            • #7
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              Thus far i've contacted Scandinavian Air reps in both Newark and Denmark due to violations of policy that happened both places. I'm speaking with the FAA shortly, since this is something that does need their notice, as well. As for the TSA, they have intentionally made themselves entirely un-reachable by design and i'm given to wonder whether complaining to them (about a small ancillary detail of the story) even matters.

              Render, who was that author of which you spoke when we were in the air? PM me?
              "I'll admit I had an OiNK account and frequented it quite often… What made OiNK a great place was that it was like the world's greatest record store… iTunes kind of feels like Sam Goody to me. I don't feel cool when I go there. I'm tired of seeing John Mayer's face pop up. I feel like I'm being hustled when I visit there, and I don't think their product is that great. DRM, low bit rate, etc... OiNK it existed because it filled a void of what people want."
              - Trent Reznor

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              • #8
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                Just a suggestion: Contacts within Infragard might be a good place take this.
                Thorn
                "If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning." - Catherine Aird

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                • #9
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                  Originally posted by Thorn View Post
                  Just a suggestion: Contacts within Infragard might be a good place take this.
                  I'm a card-carrying member. I can run your story up the flag pole if you'd like.

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                  • #10
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                    Originally posted by Club81 View Post
                    I'm a card-carrying member. I can run your story up the flag pole if you'd like.
                    So am I. I was just thinking if Dev had any local contacts that are Infragard members that he might talk directly with them.
                    Last edited by Thorn; February 23, 2010, 14:02.
                    Thorn
                    "If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning." - Catherine Aird

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                    • #11
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                      UPDATE: the latest seems to be the following comments...

                      TSA main office: "call the FAA"

                      FAA: "leave a message and we'll call you back." (no one has yet)

                      CBP main office: "we don't know anything, talk to Newark airport Customs"

                      CBP at EWR: "meh, this isn't really a big deal"

                      SAS: no response whatsoever

                      still writing it all up, more will surface in a day or so... definitely thursday at the latest.



                      the latest results across the board, btw, are...

                      dev, render, grey: all bags mishandled to the point of violating international anti-terrorism policy

                      renderman: one bag badly misrouted after the fact. one incident of baggage theft

                      dev: multiple incidents of baggage tampering and theft by parties still unknown (possibly TSA, possibly not)

                      ... plus the great epilogue of bypassing customs inspection on the way into the USA.
                      "I'll admit I had an OiNK account and frequented it quite often… What made OiNK a great place was that it was like the world's greatest record store… iTunes kind of feels like Sam Goody to me. I don't feel cool when I go there. I'm tired of seeing John Mayer's face pop up. I feel like I'm being hustled when I visit there, and I don't think their product is that great. DRM, low bit rate, etc... OiNK it existed because it filled a void of what people want."
                      - Trent Reznor

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                      • #12
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                        You can upgrade my bag to found, inspected and delivered. According to the tags it went through Zurich.

                        It sucks that my bag went to Switzerland before I did.

                        Render
                        Never drink anything larger than your head!





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                          This is all because of that tv-b-gone right ?
                          - Null Space Labs

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                            Originally posted by Thorn View Post
                            I'm glad you clarified that. The only SAS I know about is the British special forces, and I couldn't figure out why they be bothering Render, et al at Newark.
                            Having had the pleasure of interacting with a member of *that* SAS, I'd say if it was them, Render wouldn't be online..or anywhere for that matter.

                            The airline on the other hand is capable of foul ups of epic proportion.

                            I return whatever i wish . Its called FREEDOWM OF RANDOMNESS IN A HECK . CLUSTERED DEFEATED CORn FORUM . Welcome to me

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                            • #15
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                              So, i've finally finished writing up the details of what happened and have posted about it in another thread. Let's continue the discussion there.
                              "I'll admit I had an OiNK account and frequented it quite often… What made OiNK a great place was that it was like the world's greatest record store… iTunes kind of feels like Sam Goody to me. I don't feel cool when I go there. I'm tired of seeing John Mayer's face pop up. I feel like I'm being hustled when I visit there, and I don't think their product is that great. DRM, low bit rate, etc... OiNK it existed because it filled a void of what people want."
                              - Trent Reznor

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