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  • The Un-hackable poll machines

    "Hacking of poll machines ‘impossible"


    I still find it interesting how people say things are "un-hackable."
    Saving the world one computer at a time...

    or possibly destroying, I haven't figured that out yet.

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    Re: The Un-hackable poll machines

    An interesting Article about just how unhackable they are. http://itpolicy.princeton.edu/voting/

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    • #3
      Re: The Un-hackable poll machines

      hahaha truly awesome!
      Saving the world one computer at a time...

      or possibly destroying, I haven't figured that out yet.

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      • #4
        Re: The Un-hackable poll machines

        I didn't watch the second link, but wouldn't it make sense that one could just "hack" the central server? Why "hack" the individual machines?

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          Re: The Un-hackable poll machines

          Originally posted by Viktor View Post
          I didn't watch the second link, but wouldn't it make sense that one could just "hack" the central server? Why "hack" the individual machines?
          Because it's the easier route.

          It depends on the brand and configuration, but for many of the machines:
          • The physical security is minimal
          • The user has direct access, and
          • That access is -by its very nature- private


          Therefore, a golden opportunity exists for someone with bad intent to change the internal vote data on a machine. One brand of machine was so poorly secured, that someone could open it very quickly with nothing more complicated than a paper clip and a magnet.

          Many of the voting machines also don't do any kind of internal auditing, so it becomes unnecessary to attack the central server. Conceivably, one could completely stuff enough votes to completely throw an election via just one machine. If the attack it can't be traced back to a given machine at a given precinct, then you have no way to tell where the election was thrown, if you even notice. If someone was careful, and stuffed given vote by say, 10%, it could easily alter an election, especially if they did it at three or four precincts.
          Last edited by Thorn; March 5, 2010, 13:08. Reason: typo
          Thorn
          "If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning." - Catherine Aird

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          • #6
            Re: The Un-hackable poll machines

            Also, even if just a comparably few number of votes are known to be suspect, it has the potential to destroy the credibility of the entire election.
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            • #7
              Re: The Un-hackable poll machines

              Originally posted by Thorn View Post
              Therefore, a golden opportunity exists for someone with bad intent to change the internal vote data on a machine.
              Beyond that, the hacks of the Diebold machines demonstrated the ability to infect the cards used to collect votes, automatically replicating the hack to other machines.
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              • #8
                Re: The Un-hackable poll machines

                Originally posted by bascule View Post
                Beyond that, the hacks of the Diebold machines demonstrated the ability to infect the cards used to collect votes, automatically replicating the hack to other machines.
                Good point, bascule. I'd forgotten that little tidbit.
                Thorn
                "If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning." - Catherine Aird

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