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    I just got a new ISP, tried to check e-mail from other than their provided dial-up, and I get "Error 554, Relay Access Denied." They swear it is my setup that is at fault, but I have three other aqccounts that I can receive mail from on other ISPs, I think they have relaying turned off to avoid spammers.

    I can receive e-mails from them but not send through this other ISP, any ideas?

  • #2
    Re: read e-mail from anywhere?

    Originally posted by astcell
    I can receive e-mails from them but not send through this other ISP, any ideas?
    Try using telnet to send a test email. This will prove that this cannot possibly be any configuration in your client, and is most certainly their policy, restrictions. Make sure you read their TOS, EULA before attempting this or calling them on it.

    Options: get a new service.

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    • #3
      I called them and they say lots of people check e-mail from everywhere, it must be my client. 99% of the time I use my dialup, but when I travel I still want e-mail. Hmmmm. The hard part is to find a service that I can use this way without using an http client, I wanna use Eudora!

      How do I send an e-mail with telnet?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by astcell
        How do I send an e-mail with telnet?
        Here is a mini-tutorial:
        http://www.daemonnews.org/199905/telnet.html

        Warning: Check the size of the message before attempting to read it, else you are going to be waiting a while and watching matrix-like-ascii stream through your telnet window.

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        • #5
          Okay I telnet in and get this:

          220 server3.safepages.com ESMTP Postfix

          No matter what I type or do I get

          500 Syntax error, command unrecognized

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          • #6
            Originally posted by astcell
            Okay I telnet in and get this:
            220 server3.safepages.com ESMTP Postfix
            No matter what I type or do I get
            500 Syntax error, command unrecognized
            depending on which client you are using you may or may not see your echo (try toggling this on/off). There is no backspacing, so you can either script your commands, or type them in carefully, and accurately, otherwise the server will give you the syntax error message.

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            • #7
              But this info is not enough to know if they allow relaying?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by astcell
                But this info is not enough to know if they allow relaying?
                using telnet compose an email and send it. have you done this yet?

                You will get a notification if this is not allowed, and be able to determine if it is the server that is not allowing this. Therefore proving that it is the server configuration not allowing the relay, and not your configuration as you explained your isp discussed with you.

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                • #9
                  Well the commands worked, and it comes back with relaying denied. Time for a new service! Thanks!

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                  • #10
                    Authentication

                    Looks like this is sort of closed but I'll add my $.02 regardless. As I understand it, the best way to do this would be to use the SMTP server provided to you by your ISP. Say it's Earthlink you're using, you have to have smtp.earthlink.net or some such thing as the SMTP server for whatever client you're using for your email. If your SMTP server is set up as smtp.shiggety.org and you're using Earthlink as your ISP, shiggety.org will (probably) not allow you use their smtp server to send your email without authentication of some sort. My mail hosting uses authentication to allow this type of thing to go on. I can use any ISP and still use my domain's SMTP service. Sound about right?
                    cows like candy

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                    • #11
                      If I was on earthlink and sending to and from another mail server that would be one thing, but I am on a T1 line and would rather not use an in house e-mail server. I want to keep the accounts 100% separate for testing purposes, hence the open relay is nice.

                      Of course, having no spam is even better.

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                      • #12
                        Earthlink is my forte...


                        at any rate if you can't get into http://webmail.earthlink.net or https://webmail.earthlink.net or what you're checking isn't an earthlink address just go to http://www.mail2web.com

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                        • #13
                          COOL! A secure connection!

                          Or is that just what you want me to think?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by 0ptik0n
                            https://webmail.earthlink.net or what you're checking isn't an earthlink address
                            bah I hate site certificates that don't match the URL... for example the site certificate for webmail.earthlink.net was actually issued to webmail.pas.earthlink.net...

                            Though for a 1024b secure connection for web2mail you want to use these urls:
                            [default users]
                            https://www.mail2web.com/cgi-bin/login.asp?lid=0&il=1
                            [advanced users]
                            https://www.mail2web.com/cgi-bin/login.asp?lid=0&il=0

                            Don't know your server name? Use our Intelligent Login

                            though it is scary how they label the default login as intelligent login... hmmm...

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