Your impressions

[ErrorNeo]

so, the event finished.
What is your impression of it's quality (how cool was it)?
Best to write it in words, so that everybody can see who is of what opinion

[ErrorNeo]

Re: Your impressions

personally i did not like it:

*statistically wrong atrificiall rules. unnormally wrong.
*statistics for 10\20\50\100\1000k most used passwords... totally fail.
*megapasswordlists (few gig's some people have) also fail
*no long passwords. Thei give advantage to those, who know how to get them. (9-12 symbol loweralpha or loweralpha with some num\s). All real DB have them

just to say - everything is unreal and totalli artificiall. Rather far from life, and for effective bruting requires big powers, OR - understanding rather "self-imagined by authors" rules and using them over rather primitive - i should admit - passlists.

May be my personal result is not "true" high (see the reasons few strings up) but it is still more than 20k cracked passes, and i think i have small right for judjing the event.

ps. it does not matter, wich team a played for. My opinion would not differ from it, i am shure

[endeavormac]

Re: Your impressions

It was announced from the beginning that the plaintexts were artificially created.

I don't understand why that's surprising...

Additionally, they were not going to simply make 25% of the plaintexts abc123 and other common things. You may find that in the wild, but how does that help separate people in a contest?

So I don't know, I had fun.

If you didn't write your own, you weren't playing hard enough.

The end.

[ErrorNeo]

Re: Your impressions

man, i organized and supervised Two full hashcracking competitions, with about 15 prayers each.
Every contest had it's own 100% real 30k+ BD dump, everybody were more than happy ;)

I propose to ask to organize the next such event the winner of this one - personally the atom.
Non-hashcrackers can not make artificial passwords close enough to wild ones. And a good hashcracker is the one who is good in the wild. Extra-low-variety rules (most out of 100k most used, and only a few really actual) + primitive wordlists also have nothing to do with it.
Anyway the organizer must be a well-known pro, but not a somebody frome somewhere, unknown on any haskcracking forum, having close to zero wild experience and so on.

This is just my opinion. I know it is rather rough, but possibly in future it would help.
Also this thread is for hashcrackers, who at least present is any "tops".
So let it be.) I know i am not the only one who have similar thoughts

[AltF4Warrior]

Re: Your impressions

Hey, I'm from Phx2600. We had a blast playing this weekend. Overall impressions were very positive.

We had never really done something quite like this, so it was a good learning experience as well. Would definitely play again if it were ran next year. There's definitely a lot of things I would have liked to do more / differently / not at all in retrospect. (Wished we could have gotten more of the NTLM hashes! Of all places, we hit problems there.)

More complete writeup to come, very likely.

[Xanadrel]

Re: Your impressions

I liked the contest, it was fun.