Stuxnet

[bascule]

Re: Stuxnet

Not sure anyone else has been following this, but "Anonymous" apparently got a copy of Stuxnet after hacking HBGary, the security firm who compiled a very amateurish report detailing the people they thought were behind the organization.

Anonymous posted this decompiled version, apparently created with Hex-Rays:

https://github.com/Laurelai/decompil.../master/output

[JMC31337]

Re: Stuxnet

Stuxnet was idaho national laboratory american made crap that backfired against the U.S. on an international cybernetics level.
Hey Tangent didn't D H S investigate that incident?

[JMC31337]

Re: Stuxnet

Mod delete this post it was double posted

[shrdlu]

Re: Stuxnet

Stuxnet was idaho national laboratory american made crap that backfired against the U.S. on an international cybernetics level.

Do you have some actual evidence for this statement? Personally, I think you are, ah, how shall we say it, wrong?

[DarthSnader]

Re: Stuxnet

Given the coordinated assassinations on the leading scientists that coincided with the release of the worm, I do think a state actor was at play.

We could debate the complexity of the worm and various motives of groups all day, but coordinated assassinations tend to rule out a few possibilities.

[Thorn]

Re: Stuxnet

Given the coordinated assassinations on the leading scientists that coincided with the release of the worm, I do think a state actor was at play.

We could debate the complexity of the worm and various motives of groups all day, but coordinated assassinations tend to rule out a few possibilities.

"Coordinated assassinations"? Please cite some credible source(s), or it's all a just another loony conspiracy theory.

[streaker69]

Re: Stuxnet

"Coordinated assassinations"? Please cite some credible source(s), or it's all a just another loony conspiracy theory.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...112901560.html

Dunno who's behind it, but there were some attacks.

[Thorn]

Re: Stuxnet

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...112901560.html

Dunno who's behind it, but there were some attacks.

<shrug> First, that's five and a half months after Stuxnet was first detected, and a year after it is believed that it was first released in the wild. IF there were foreign powers behind both the worm and the assassinations, logically they would do both closer together so the guys in charge wouldn't have time to start rebuilding the infrastructure damaged allegedly by the worm.

Secondly, that's not exactly the way that either the US or Israel has been known to deal with assassinations in the past. Multiple bullets in the brainpan is a lot more efficient, and usually a lot surer. Sure either could hire local talent to make it look like a local job, but even so, the timing is all wrong.

All-in-all, it the killings sound like the political unrest that's been going on there for close to two years, and a conspiracy theory still seems like a loony tunes to me.

[streaker69]

Re: Stuxnet

<shrug> First, that's five and a half months after Stuxnet was first detected, and a year after it id believed that it was first released in the wild. IF there were foreign powers behind both the worm and the assassinations, logically they would do both closer together so the guys in charge wouldn't have time to start rebuilding the infrastructure damaged allegedly by the worm.

Secondly, that's not exactly the way that either the US or Israel has been known to deal with assassinations in the past. Multiple bullets in the brainpan is a lot more efficient, and usually a lot surer. Sure either could hire local talent to make it look like a local job, but even so, the timing is all wrong.

All-in-all, it the killings sound like the political unrest that's been going on there for close to two years, and a conspiracy theory still seems like a loony tunes to me.

I agree with what you're saying, I was merely pointing to a source of the other poster's idea of coordinated assassinations. I wasn't trying to make any statement to either confirm nor deny his assertions.

[Thorn]

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I agree with what you're saying, I was merely pointing to a source of the other poster's idea of coordinated assassinations. I wasn't trying to make any statement to either confirm nor deny his assertions.

Understood. If someone is going to present that kind of argument they should at least back it up with some factual basis.

Generally, the problem that I have with most conspiracy theories in general is that the draw huge conclusions from tiny (or non-existent) facts. When you start to analyze them logically, comparing them against other well established facts (like time-lines) they often start to fall apart. If DarthSnader had posted the same link, I probably would have responded the same as I did to you, but he didn't even do that.

[Thorn]

Re: Stuxnet

It looks like Israel may have all but admitted that Stuxnet was their creation, without actually saying it in black and white. The Telegraph (UK) ran a story today which says that a highlight reel of "operational success" played at the retirement party for the head of the IDF, references Stuxnet.

Israeli security chief celebrates Stuxnet cyber attack

A showreel played at a retirement party for the head of the Israeli Defence Forces has strengthened claims the country's security forces were responsible for a cyber attack on the Iranian nuclear programme.

The video of Lieutenant General Gabi Ashkenazi's operational successes included references to Stuxnet, a computer virus that disrupted the Natanz nuclear enrichment site last year, Ha'aretz reported.

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Read the whole story here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...er-attack.html

[DarthSnader]

Re: Stuxnet

"Coordinated assassinations"? Please cite some credible source(s), or it's all a just another loony conspiracy theory.

Sorry, should have linked

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...-attack-claims

in addition to the other links provided.


It's true that they happened a while after stuxnet was noticed, yet they happened around the time stuxnet was taking action and spreading.

I am not saying that it is Israel or the US behind it, but I wouldnt be surprised if it were a state.

[bascule]

Re: Stuxnet

In case you haven't seen it already, it's been confirmed the US and Israel created Stuxnet. Apparently it was designed to attack a single facility they infiltrated which had an isolated network and thus they assumed it wouldn't make it onto the Internet in general. However, that was not the case...

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2...control-of-it/

[DaKahuna]

Re: Stuxnet

In case you haven't seen it already, it's been confirmed the US and Israel created Stuxnet. Apparently it was designed to attack a single facility they infiltrated which had an isolated network and thus they assumed it wouldn't make it onto the Internet in general. However, that was not the case...

Guess it just goes to prove what they say about assumptions .. lol

[theprez98]

Re: Stuxnet

No doubt everyone in the community is just *shocked* that the two most likely countries to "attack" Iran are behind Stuxnet. :-)

Regardless of your feelings for (or against) the US, Israel, and Iran--do you consider this an act of war?