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  • Wiretapping charges for recording police?!

    Not sure how many of you have been following this case, but the facts are something like this: Back in March, Anthony Graber was on his motorcycle on I-95 and doing what young kids on motorcycles sometimes do, speeding, pulling wheelies, etc. He was pulled over by an off-duty state trooper.

    It turns out that Graber had a camera on his helmet, and it captured the entire thing--video and audio. It's not immediately clear if the trooper identifies himself (his badge is on his belt and not easily seen), but he draws his weapon on Graber. This is interesting in itself, although not necessarily relevant to the issue at hand.

    A few days later, Graber posts the video on YouTube (link) and very soon thereafter, the State's Attorney for Maryland files a slew of charges against Graber: not just the traffic violations, but wiretapping charges for capturing the audio on his helmet cam (yes, Maryland is a two-party state). The key issue in Maryland (and elsewhere) regarding the wiretap statute revolves around the expectation of privacy, that is, it must exist in a particular situation for the statute to apply.

    Up until this point, the Maryland courts had not previously come down on the issue of recording police, so as you can imagine this case has attracted a lot of attention in the regional (and even national press).

    Back in July, the Maryland Attorney General issued an opinion that (generally speaking), the recording of the public activities of police officers would probably not be considered a violation of the wiretap statute. That being said, the Attorney General's opinion is advisory and does not hold the force of law.

    On Monday, a circuit court judge in Harford County announced (link here) that all the wiretap-related charges against Graber were being dropped--the judge's decision was based on the fact that a police officer making a traffic stop along a public highway has no expectation of privacy, and therefore the conversation is not subject to the wiretap statute.

    A circuit court opinion in Maryland does not apply state-wide, so that doesn't make this case "precendent," but the general consensus among legal experts is that this case will have that effect nonetheless. Other State's Attorneys here in Maryland in somewhat similar cases have avoided bringing wiretapping charges so it seems the issue is settled (for now). No word yet on whether or not there will be an appeal (which is interesting in itself; if the State were to appeal, and the Appeals Court again sides with Graber, it would create a statewide precedent).
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    Re: Wiretapping charges for recording police?!

    Ah finally. Unfortunately there are also a few places that have explicit laws making recording police a crime, but it's good to see this one thrown out.

    It's also very common to see cops say "turn off the camera" if they know it's running, can they legally require that?
    --- The fuck? Have you ever BEEN to Defcon?

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    • #3
      Re: Wiretapping charges for recording police?!

      Originally posted by kallahar View Post
      Ah finally. Unfortunately there are also a few places that have explicit laws making recording police a crime, but it's good to see this one thrown out.

      It's also very common to see cops say "turn off the camera" if they know it's running, can they legally require that?
      I think it depends--if they think you're interfering with whatever they're doing, I think it's reasonable for them to ask you to turn it off--then again, they could also ask you to move away. If you're further away and clearly not interfering with the police business, I think telling you to turn off the camera is more intimidation than anything else. So it comes down to, do you want to be charged with disorderly conduct, which seems to be the catch-all charge for this sort of thing.

      There are a lot of cases where people have been charged with disorderly conduct for saying "Fuck you!" or whatever to police; see for example here. It seems that some police confuse profanity with obscenity. It may not be a good idea to curse at law enforcement, but generally speaking, it's not illegal.
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      • #4
        Re: Wiretapping charges for recording police?!

        I say record them whenever you want...they are public servants on public streets with no expectation of privacy. This helps keep them straight, and any time we have transparency thats a good thing, especially when we are talking about peoples freedom.

        I really think this has spawned from the fact that YouTube has become "Police Abuse De Jour" over the past few years. Now i wouldn't condone interfering with them or their job, but if they are following procedure, and telling the truth about each other..why worry?

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        • #5
          Re: Wiretapping charges for recording police?!

          Originally posted by m0th3r View Post
          ... but if they are following procedure, and telling the truth about each other..why worry?
          The only part of that logic is that the average citizen knows as much about actual police procedure as they do about the actual procedures for hacking computers. In other words, what the public does "know" is what they've gleaned from watching TV and movies and that is 99.999% fiction.
          Thorn
          "If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning." - Catherine Aird

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          • #6
            Re: Wiretapping charges for recording police?!

            Originally posted by Thorn View Post
            what the public does "know" is what they've gleaned from watching TV and movies and that is 99.999% fiction.
            God that is so true...about almost every topic...

            Generally it has to be pretty bad even with tape for a cop to go down over something. They get a good bit of leeway already..i mean if he tells u to do something when u r in custody and u resist at all, its pretty much on...

            I always use the Chris Rock "How not to get your ass kicked by the police" when i am unsure.. :)

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            • #7
              Re: Wiretapping charges for recording police?!

              Lol, yes, once you're in custody he can pretty much do what he wants. What's important is before you're in handcuffs, and what you can do without having to get a lawyer later.

              I just remembered another time... I was drunk, there was a knife fight outside a bar, I got there just after everyone broke up. The cops started canvasing the area and they find a guy, tackle him, and put him in the police car. I videoed the entire thing (the cops did just fine). An officer then came up to me and started asking me questions about the perp, but he never asked me to stop filming. So that was a good experience.
              --- The fuck? Have you ever BEEN to Defcon?

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              • #8
                Re: Wiretapping charges for recording police?!

                The first time I ever saw an arrest and had a camera on me I took plenty of pictures. The officer saw me and yelled for me to stay where I was until he was done. I remained, but still took pictures. he later came over, asked what I shot, and I told him. he then gave me his card and asked if I can mail him copies because he'd love to show his Mom what he does at work. Way cool plus brownie points from the agency.

                As long as you stay out of their way, most cops understand the freedom to photograph. What really gets my goat, and causes the most confusion, are security guards with egos the size of the Titanic who think they ARE the legal experts when it comes to photography. Even when I know I am right I prefer to not have the discussion with them in the first place.

                Google: Photographer's Rights. There is a nice little PDF you will find.

                Now even though the guy on the motorcycle was found to be in the right, how much did a lawyer cost him to get to that point?

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