Defcon Radio

[Thorn]

Re: Defcon Radio

Someone owning a FM transmitter isn't against the law, using it on the other hand is.

I never said otherwise, and agree; ownership is legal, unlicensed use is not. However, your post indicates intent for use, and while I'm not aware of the FCC specifically having been present before at DefCon, Feds aren't exactly unknown there.

All I'm saying is that you you just might want to think about such things in the future before posting, especially on a public forum where your IP and email address are logged.

[darkcreature]

Re: Defcon Radio

Someone owning a FM transmitter isn't against the law, using it on the other hand is.

[Thorn]

Re: Defcon Radio

I may have access to a 1 watt fm transmitter that could relay the stream via fm radio tho I dont know if the motel has fm radios in the rooms anymore. The transmitter has a BNC connector on it so it wouldnt take much to make shift a dipole antenna in a room, plug that into any device that has wifi that can play whatever format the stream is. Granted its pushing the fcc's limits on power. With a homemade 1/4 wave antenna I was able to get a decent signal 5 miles away over open ground. The unit is small enough to fit into a laptop bag with a droid streaming the audio if it should be mobile. 12v power supply and your good to go. Any thoughts?

"Pushing the FCC's limits" is an understatement, since the limit is effectively 0.01 microwatts for unlicensed FM transmission. If you're going to do something illegal like this, posting about it in an open forum that is known to be frequented by various federal agencies isn't very smart.

[darkcreature]

Re: Defcon Radio

truncated to protect the innocent, sorry

[dmz]

Re: Defcon Radio

I was more wondering what you were using for the central source & control for the timing of "what is playing now & what is next"

The link I sent is a control tool that allows multiple people to upload interviews/music/whatever and then organize it into their "show" (30 min, 1 hr, 4 hr, whatever); then you as the manager define the timeslots those workers are working to fill.

The sw then streams it out to either other icecast relay servers, local speakers, transmitter, whatever.

You don't want to have to interrupt the stream and you need to be able to add content throughout the weekend. If you interrupt the stream it will disconnect listeners (ie to HUP or restart with new playlist with new interviews or music or whatever).

Shout when your back online (IM) so we can discuss offline.

dmz

[Xodia]

Re: Defcon Radio

Since your getting setup now, have you decided how your going to manage the stream / schedule? I'd recommend airtime:

http://www.sourcefabric.org/en/produ...time_overview/

Also regarding the network, will people at defcon be able to connect/listen to stream locally or only from internet relays?

Internet relays would be best. People from outside the convention could tune in that way too.

Ironically, I'm testing some of our mobile rigs tonight and tomorrow around town. They should work pretty well provided we get decent service within the hotel. I have experience running streaming internet stations, the actual setup isn't my concern nearly as much as volunteers and programming.


A call for volunteers and shows will be announced when the site is up...which I just emailed you about. :)

[dmz]

Re: Defcon Radio

Since your getting setup now, have you decided how your going to manage the stream / schedule? I'd recommend airtime:

http://www.sourcefabric.org/en/produ...time_overview/

Also regarding the network, will people at defcon be able to connect/listen to stream locally or only from internet relays?

[dmz]

Re: Defcon Radio

Howdy y'all. Just getting caught up and happy to bring anything I had before. A few quick thoughts on issues I had in years past.

The biggest problem was dependable internet. Without that your not streaming!

The next biggest issue is getting dependable help. If I make it out this year (the kids are finally big enough for me to travel for fun:) I'd be happy to help. Getting access to the presentations, post-interviews and soundbites are some of the hardest things to get if you don't have enough people helping.

Also, get your software configured and tested pre-con. The weekend goes by very quick if your debugging...

I'm also happy to let the site defconradio.org be used if someone has energy & skills to create something. I also have a few data-centers worth of servers that we can use to add to repeaters if there is a need.

DT would the radio be able to broadcast any of the talks?

As for the FM broadcast, if you have a room up high in the hotel and have access to the stream you should be able to get 7-10 miles coverage with 15 watts, which is good for those bouncing between parties :) Check out freeradio.org for more details on equipment

dmz

[eris]

Re: Defcon Radio

Submitted, sir. Thanks for the help!

What, no damn love for the eris that posted about contacting pyr0 before pyr0 posted? Why you gotta hate like that?

[Xodia]

Re: Defcon Radio

Hey there Xodia,
Be sure to fill out the RFI (https://forum.defcon.org/showthread.php?t=12113) and let me know what you need to make this happen.
-Pyr0

Submitted, sir. Thanks for the help!

[Pyr0]

Re: Defcon Radio

Awesome! I am 100% certain this is going to happen. Unlike Poker events, its something that doesn't require gaming commission hoops.

I'll get on the hunt for space/bandwidth immediately. Thanks, DT, and humble forum God.

Hey there Xodia,
Be sure to fill out the RFI (https://forum.defcon.org/showthread.php?t=12113) and let me know what you need to make this happen.
-Pyr0

[eris]

Re: Defcon Radio

xodia, contact pyr0 about constest space. There is, in fact, a form and questionnare up as of yesterday from him. He can arrange space and get you help with what you need to make it happen.

[TheCotMan]

Re: Defcon Radio

Awesome! I am 100% certain this is going to happen. Unlike Poker events, its something that doesn't require gaming commission hoops.

I'll get on the hunt for space/bandwidth immediately. Thanks, DT, and humble forum God.

Forum "[forum=581]Defcon Radio[/forum]" has been created and this thread moved into it with a redirect from the old location to the new location which will auto-expire in 3 weeks.

Present Description:
"Temporary Title: Audio broadcast from Defcon."

Please let me know if you want that changed and what you want to change it to.

Do you have a twitter feed for this event, where you will tweet information on where you are or what you are doing? If so, please give me a URL so I can include it in the description.

What about Facebook? If you have a URL for a facebook entry, please give that to me so it can be added.

Any other URL for a site/web page, wiki, mailing list or something else? URL and I can link to it from the description.

If you have none of these but plan to get them later, let me know when you have them and I can update the descrption.

Thanks, and good luck!
-Cot

[Xodia]

Re: Defcon Radio

Sounds good. If you are sure you are going to make this happen, DT (above) has given an OK. You will still need to work out space for your event if you need it, and access to Defcon resources if you need those. Once you make a decision to carry it through, I'll make a forum for it. Just let me know! :-)

Awesome! I am 100% certain this is going to happen. Unlike Poker events, its something that doesn't require gaming commission hoops.

I'll get on the hunt for space/bandwidth immediately. Thanks, DT, and humble forum God.

[TheCotMan]

Re: Defcon Radio

My concept is much more similiar to what DMZ had going for Defcon Radio at Defcon 13. Live programming all day and night for the full duration of the Con. I went ahead and emailed him a bit ago, but I'm not sure if the address on the old Defcon Radio site is up to date. Hopefully he sees this here!

Sounds good. If you are sure you are going to make this happen, DT (above) has given an OK. You will still need to work out space for your event if you need it, and access to Defcon resources if you need those. Once you make a decision to carry it through, I'll make a forum for it. Just let me know! :-)

From what I understand, the Podcasters meetup was more of a panel of notable podcasters being broadcast live for a period at night and a quiet room for people to record during the day. Then again, I wasn't able to attend that con, so I could be wrong.

Yeah, i never attended it either. The description made it sound like a bunch of podcasters got together and ran their own live shows during the meet-up, and went on their way to podcasting out in the crowd when the meeting was over.