How would you make Defcon 21 better?

[kallahar]

Re: How would you make Defcon 21 better?

That would be awesome. I "helped" on a tamper evident team a few years ago and had a great time, but I don't care that much about the competition or have the time to commit to a contest, but a place to wander in when you have a free hour sounds great!

[blak_hal0]

Re: How would you make Defcon 21 better?

I am curious on peoples opinions about having a Tamper Evident village next year?

We have so many tags, bags, and tapes and the contest has been around now for three years I want to try something new. The idea is to have a village, like lock picking, where people can play. Of course it will not be as large or as popular as LPV but it will hopefully inspire a wider audience to get involved. I am hoping then that I can work with another group do the TE Contest (MFP perhaps?)

I personally would really like this.

[Dark Tangent]

Re: How would you make Defcon 21 better?

I am curious on peoples opinions about having a Tamper Evident village next year?

We have so many tags, bags, and tapes and the contest has been around now for three years I want to try something new. The idea is to have a village, like lock picking, where people can play. Of course it will not be as large or as popular as LPV but it will hopefully inspire a wider audience to get involved. I am hoping then that I can work with another group do the TE Contest (MFP perhaps?)

[wrøng!]

Re: How would you make Defcon 21 better?

More people opting out- specifically on the flight back home. And someone filming the hysteria.

[blak_hal0]

Re: How would you make Defcon 21 better?

I would like to see some lock picking contests, particularly head to head stuff. Or maybe just like an open "lock boxing ring" type thing were 2 or more people can square off in a head to head picking / impressioning / bypass contest for bragging rights, and of course the humiliation of defeat and public ridicule for the loser. :)

Maybe something like the black bag / gringo warrior challenge but scaled down and open through out the con.


I know all things require volunteers and equipment. If there's anyway I can help something like this happen please let me know.

[seeess]

Re: How would you make Defcon 21 better?

Would it be possible to open up the larger room for hacker jeopardy and 10,000 cent pyramid? The entire back portion of the room was standing room only one of the nights, even though it was already held in the large room.

[astcell]

Re: How would you make Defcon 21 better?

Good way to learn Boolean Logic. Imagine the possibilities.

[kallahar]

Re: How would you make Defcon 21 better?

Let's crowdsource this, everyone can contribute a section of the route. What could go wrong?

[AlxRogan]

Re: How would you make Defcon 21 better?

Use of tape could also include "forking" with decisions at various points, and loops. We could make attendees into part of a program and convert them all into instruction pointers of sorts.

One example for forking could be for tape to bathrooms and a question of gender.
Another could be for Info-Desk with a question "I want to complain" which leads outside and a loop or dead-state, and, "I have a question" which leads to the desk. Maybe the loop outside could be visited on a regular basis and introduce a new fork, "I no longer wish to complain" which then takes people back into the convention.

One thing is certain: whoever puts down such tape, creating loops and forks can add to their CV:
"I programmed Humans at Defcon."

Just make sure you don't put anything on Column 7...it'll get ignored.

[TheCotMan]

Re: How would you make Defcon 21 better?

And I can see that a) Las Vegas will run out of painters tape quickly, and b) all taped lines will end up leading to the strip show, the bar.. or both.

Of course, Siviak's Secondhand Scavhunt Emporium and Sister Sarah's Empire of Flesh look a *LOT* alike.

Use of tape could also include "forking" with decisions at various points, and loops. We could make attendees into part of a program and convert them all into instruction pointers of sorts.

One example for forking could be for tape to bathrooms and a question of gender.
Another could be for Info-Desk with a question "I want to complain" which leads outside and a loop or dead-state, and, "I have a question" which leads to the desk. Maybe the loop outside could be visited on a regular basis and introduce a new fork, "I no longer wish to complain" which then takes people back into the convention.

One thing is certain: whoever puts down such tape, creating loops and forks can add to their CV:
"I programmed Humans at Defcon."

[bluknight]

Re: How would you make Defcon 21 better?

We can use painter's tape on the walls. High up. One stripe for speaker rooms, one for lobby, one for vendors room, etc. How often do goons get asked directions? How easy is it to get misdirected?

And I can see that a) Las Vegas will run out of painters tape quickly, and b) all taped lines will end up leading to the strip show, the bar.. or both.

Of course, Siviak's Secondhand Scavhunt Emporium and Sister Sarah's Empire of Flesh look a *LOT* alike.

[astcell]

Re: How would you make Defcon 21 better?

Some places are just hard to find. This may be a stretch, but...

Have you ever been to a building so big (hospital, warehouse) that directions to get somewhere sound as bad as traffic directions? I recall places that put stripes on the ground. Military hospitals are good for this. Oh you need your appendix out? Follow the yellow line. So you do, just like the little bot on Wall-E. Then at the end of the line they say, "Oh I guess you want your appendix out!"

We can use painter's tape on the walls. High up. One stripe for speaker rooms, one for lobby, one for vendors room, etc. How often do goons get asked directions? How easy is it to get misdirected?

Just my three cents.

[TheCotMan]

Re: How would you make Defcon 21 better?

This thread has been copied from the old thread in the Defcon 20 forum, which is now closed.

Feel free to continue your ideas on making Defcon 21 better than Defcon 20, here.

[Neural]

Re: How would you make Defcon 21 better?

Well....my answer to this question would first to start attending again. :) Yes...I'm still alive and kicking. Just been wrapped up in that whole messy life thing.

[kallahar]

Re: How would you make Defcon 21 better?

I support the "must have demo video without ums" initiative.

Also maybe a public vote would just cover 80% of the talks. I'm sure that the 20% with truely "secret" talks could be manually selected by the super-secret-all-powerfull-oversight-committee.

Kallahar