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  • KeLviN
    Poor but happy
    • Jul 2002
    • 1951

    #16
    thanks for the update.
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    • bobzilla
      Member
      • Feb 2003
      • 6

      #17
      Yup to the wardriving. I'm one of the owners of wigle.net We welcome all uploads of wardrive datum from netstumbler/kismet/etc, map the points, and do statistics. 224,535 gps located points and counting...
      bobzilla - wigle.net

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      • baysick2k
        Member
        • Feb 2003
        • 8

        #18
        It all started on a snowy day, while sitting at a Jeep Dealership getting a tuneup. (However I did technically drive to the dealership.)

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        • caffeine20
          Member
          • Mar 2003
          • 13

          #19
          up untill rescently ide always hunt for new AP's around my neighborhood, but just rescently fakeAP's have made it a little annoying.

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          • blackwave
            Member
            • Jun 2002
            • 4270

            #20
            Originally posted by caffeine20
            up untill rescently ide always hunt for new AP's around my neighborhood, but just rescently fakeAP's have made it a little annoying.
            wow it is interested to see how many people actually run fake-ap... for some reason (including in this forum) even the script kiddies have problems running Fake-AP... not to mention the general public. I have yet to run into a fake-ap nest here in orange county. I really want to see if my little alpha fake-ap detector works in the wild... :(

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            • converge
              No Values Voter
              • Oct 2001
              • 3322

              #21
              I am just getting the time to play around with hostap a little right now.. funny the topic should come up. At minimum, you can test it on my room in August :)...

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              • Chris
                Great Satan of the East
                • Oct 2001
                • 2866

                #22
                Originally posted by caffeine20
                up untill rescently ide always hunt for new AP's around my neighborhood, but just rescently fakeAP's have made it a little annoying.
                I would like more info on this too. In my experience Fake-AP is pretty much a non factor. It only generates the "fake" ap's at time interval. This would be an issue if you sat still for an extended period of time but not if you are driving by. Worst case scenario you would get a couple of APs that aren't legit. I would love to see a log if you have one though. The Black Alchemy guys may have improved thinks since I last played with it.
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                • caffeine20
                  Member
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 13

                  #23
                  for the most part chris Fake AP isnt as bad when driving, but it still causes problems. ill dig up some of my stumbler logs from around the SLC area, this week.

                  ive only found a few people flooding there wireless networks with fake AP but the one that does keeps me from surfing the net at my favorite breakfast location now.

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                  • blackwave
                    Member
                    • Jun 2002
                    • 4270

                    #24
                    Originally posted by caffeine20
                    ive only found a few people flooding there wireless networks with fake AP but the one that does keeps me from surfing the net at my favorite breakfast location now.
                    Why would it interfere? You must be associated with your pre-authorized AP's SSID... There should be no real conflict especially since fake-AP is not flooding sustained connections, only broadcasts (which your client would ignore once associated), and surely your pre-authorized AP connection is stronger than the fake-ap's signal...

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                    • lucifex
                      Member
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 23

                      #25
                      Originally posted by blackwave
                      Why would it interfere? You must be associated with your pre-authorized AP's SSID... There should be no real conflict especially since fake-AP is not flooding sustained connections, only broadcasts (which your client would ignore once associated), and surely your pre-authorized AP connection is stronger than the fake-ap's signal...
                      I'm not sure he said pre-authorized.

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                      • blackwave
                        Member
                        • Jun 2002
                        • 4270

                        #26
                        Originally posted by lucifex
                        I'm not sure he said pre-authorized.
                        I can only speculate that he wasn't speaking of committing any unlawful acts... you know, innnocent until proven guilty...

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                        • caffeine20
                          Member
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 13

                          #27
                          i plead the fifth, LOL

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                          • Kashan
                            Member
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 4

                            #28
                            only seeking a way to act as innocent at possible =) i love my hood. gotta love college towns.

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                            • lucifex
                              Member
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 23

                              #29
                              BW - I suppose, but his post makes a lot more sense my way.

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                              • blackwave
                                Member
                                • Jun 2002
                                • 4270

                                #30
                                Originally posted by lucifex
                                BW - I suppose, but his post makes a lot more sense my way.
                                I am sure he got the point either way... but we both could be surprised.

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