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On the Music/A&E side of the event, it is worth noting that almost all of the DJs you see on most of the streaming services are just rolling the dice on getting streams muted/halted/copyright-struck, unless they individually have the licensing straight, and even then, the algorithms sometimes get them anyway. I've seen a lot of advice being passed around to quick mix, talk over streams, introduce noise, and play with key-lock off in order to get by, but it may not be something that can be relied on.
The only streaming platform I know of right now that handles licensing for music for you (and more importantly, won't kill your stream in the middle of a set :) ) is Mixcloud's new live streaming service. Clearly some bigger names do it on other services, so I guess the licensing and whitelisting can be done, but I have no idea how.Leave a comment:
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Not Zoom. As much as it's a nice platform, too many companies and governments have forbid their users from using it.
For small (1-10) users, Jitsi is good. But it doesn't scale up to hundreds.
Webex, GotoMeeting, Skype, etc. Are each good for a few dozen to a hundred people -- depending on the platform.
However, for big presentations, perhaps a hybrid solution would be best. Something like: Jitsi for the presenter, because it can be used to feed a YouTube stream (public or private). YouTube for allowing thousands of people view the presentation at the same time. And something like Discord or Slack for real-time Q&A (type your question and let the presenter answer it). Sure, this is a hack, but, well, it is a hacker conference.Leave a comment:
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DEF CON Safe Mode Platform Discussion
Updated v15
Lets talk possible platforms and their strengths and weaknesses.
I know we will use the forums for planning, but what to use for the event?
Currently we are exploring discord with a connection to Twitch to handle the large video stream size needed for big talks. Some people say to run a Riot server ourselves. Some want VR.
We need a solutions for:- Thousands of people at a time watching a talk or workshop
- Thousands of people watching or listening to a DJ / VJ
- A way to be social through chat or voice with moderation capabilities to lock out trolls
- Some way to have shared experiences like watching NetFlix or a free streamed movie Mystery Science Theater 3k style.
- Allow content creators live village to manage and moderate their own spaces
Decision Matrix
PlatformsStreaming PlatformsName Max Users Self Host? Bot? User Privacy? Mobile? See in China? Guest Access? Notes Meets a Need? Url Discord 50 watching video per channel Yes - Lots of work Yes Yes YES - Slow Yes? Can connect to Twitch to support essentially unlimited video streams. Yes discord.com AltspaceVR 30k+ No YES - Slow No Can accept video streams into rooms. 3D with laptop, 2D with phone. altvr.com Zoom 200? 1000? No Yes YES Yes Video Conference - Can connect to YouTube / FB Video to steam to larger audiences. zoom.com ON24 10k+ No NEW: The are not interested in conferences, preferring to focus on webcasts. on24.com Text / Chat PlatformsName Max Users Self Host Bot? User Privacy? Mobile See in China? Guest Access? Notes Meets a Need Url Twitch 1 Million No Yes No Yes A/V streaming DJ VJ Speakers Workshops Yes twitch.tv YouTube 500k+ No No Yes No Yes Video Stream Yes youtube.com Face Book ? No No No Yes No Video Stream facebook.com Vimeo ? No No No Video stream 9+ channels Yes vimeo.com Name Max Users Self Host Bot? User Privacy? Mobile See in China? Guest Access? Notes Meets a Need Url IRC Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Text chat Mumble 3k+ Yes Yes Yes Yes Text chat https://mumble.info/ Rocket.Chat Yes rocket.chat Riot Yes Yes Yes Yes Other communications can be bridged into Riot such as IRC, Slack, and Discord. Yes about.riot.im Slack Yes Yes Yes (But no Chinese) "Where work happens" slack.com Last edited by Dark Tangent; June 11, 2020, 01:42.
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