DEF CON open SSID?

[supersat]

What will the DEF CON open SSID be? It would be nice if we could pre-configure our badges to connect to it.

[Dark Tangent]

Everything should be the same as last year, just updating from DC32 to DC33 where needed for the network.

For example dc32-media.defcon.org -> dc33-media.defcon.org

[supersat]

I've replaced my devices since last DEF CON and no longer have the SSIDs stored 😬

[Dark Tangent]

What should you do in order to connect to Wi-Fi?

If you are a returning guest just do the same thing you did last year but with more confidence... if this is your first time as the person sitting next to you... great way to start a conversation :)... if you aren’t much of a talker, then follow the steps at https:// wifireg.defcon.org.

The encrypted one with 802.1X authentication and digital certificate verification: DefCon

The (other, yet legit) encrypted one with 802.1X authentication and digital certificate verification. But also, with some shiny WPA3 benefits: DefCon-WPA3

And the original, unencrypted, stick-shift, no ABS, wildest-westest of the wireless networks: DefCon-Open

So to recap

Defcon - (get a user/password and cert from https://wifireg.defcon.org)

Defcon-WPA3 - same as above

Defcon Open – I wouldn’t but I hear the cool kids are there.

“Choice. The problem is choice” Wi-Fi and 802.1X authentication have had a pretty good relationship in the past few years. And, believe or not, we test stuff before we go onsite... seriously we work on this all year. But things might change and there might be some devices out there that really do not like 802.1X with PEAP authentication.

Important 802.1X fact: By configuring 802.1X and choosing for your device to “not verify server certificate” will probably not only let that device connect to one of the hundreds of rogue access points on the show floor but will also send your login credentials to a rogue radius server. Despite technology advancements, this is still no bueno and defeats the whole purpose of this authentication method.

Be an advocate of cyber common sense™, and do not, I repeat, do NOT choose the same credentials (aka: username and password) used for stuff that matters: shopping sites, online-banking, AND, especially your windows domains (yeah, it keeps happening) to connect to the hacker conference network. Make something up, be creative and funny, cause we will post the best ones!

For updated information and instructions on how to connect to the Wi-Fi along with the link to download the digital certificate to be used, visit: https://wifireg.defcon.org.

For NOC updates visit https://noc.defcon.org , and also follow us on twitter or reddit. @DEFCON_ NOC above all else have fun and be rad to each other!

[dmr]

is wifireg.defcon.org down?

Can't connect 1845 Wed Jul 30 CDT

[number6]

is wifireg.defcon.org down?

Can't connect 1845 Wed Jul 30 CDT

It is often taken offline outside of DEF CON.

If you want to see the details from TWO YEARS AGO (2023) check out "the internet archive" :

(DO NOT submit form information through archive.org link to "register" or "login": that is not the real wifireg, only a copy stored online for historical review.)

https://web.archive.org/web/20230809...eg.defcon.org/

ALSO: recognize any of the certs on archive.org for wifi reg at DEF CON are almost certainly old, expired and invalid. Wait for the the real https://wifireg.defcon.org/ to be online to get the latest for DC33.

*Sometimes* https://wifireg.defcon.org/ is brought online early in the week of DEF CON (the Monday or Tuesday before DEF CON) but it is also possible the information provided isn't yet up-to-date for DEF CON. Sometimes new certs need to be generated for the new year. You can see in the PDF of slides from DC32, the NOC team had Internet access setup on Monday, and the DefCon-Open wifi *AND* the "secure Wifi" that uses SSID "DEFCON" and https://wifireg.defcon.org/ required the setup process, all working on Tuesday.

Also, from earlier DEF CON...

From DEF CON 26, there is this archive on the media server:
URL2=https://media.defcon.org/DEF%20CON%2...%20network.txt

...
If you want to get online, remember there are two (and only two) official ESSIDs you should use to access the intertubes:

The encrypted one with 802.1x authentication and digital certificate verification (DefCon) and the unencrypted, wild-west of the wireless networks (DefCon-Open). Please choose wisely.
...

I do not see details on whether "DefCon-Open" is still the open wifi SSID, or if it is still supported for DC 33.

From DEF CON 32, in a PDF on the noc.defcon.org server:
URL3=https://noc.defcon.org/media/DC32/DC32-slides-NOC.pdf

The PDF on URL3 mentioned "DefCon-Open" as SSID for the opens DEF CON WIfi Network LAST YEAR (DC 32)

Other resources:
https://noc.defcon.org/


I am not part of NOC and nothing I write is authoritative for DEF CON 33.

[supersat]

And the original, unencrypted, stick-shift, no ABS, wildest-westest of the wireless networks: DefCon-Open

So to recap

Defcon - (get a user/password and cert from https://wifireg.defcon.org)

Defcon-WPA3 - same as above

Defcon Open – I wouldn’t but I hear the cool kids are there.

So is it "DefCon-Open" or "Defcon Open"?

This is why I ask.

I suppose I could pre-provision everything to connect to every variant of "DEF CON Open"

[supersat]

So far in this thread I've seen:

DefCon-Open
DefCon Open
DEFCon-Open
DEFCON-Open

These are all distinct SSIDs.

And if y'all really want to stick with your brand, it should probably be "DEF CON-Open" or "DEF CON Open"

[number6]

So far in this thread I've seen:

DefCon-Open
DefCon Open
DEFCon-Open
DEFCON-Open

These are all distinct SSIDs.

And if y'all really want to stick with your brand, it should probably be "DEF CON-Open" or "DEF CON Open"

The "DEFCON-Open" and "DEFCon-Open" were because I have been encouraged to used all-caps "DEF CON" instead of "DEFCON" or "DefCon" ...
I've altered the text of my post to change them to "DefCon-Open"

Again, I am not part of NOC, so these are only comments on what NOC docs from previous years have claimed.

You could try emailing "noc@defcon.org" to see if they plan to do the same thing this year as their PDF claimed for last year.

[Vod1]

It is the Tuesday before Defcon and I’m Chicago airport on my layover. Is there a status on when wifireg.defcon.org is going live this year?

[number6]

It is the Tuesday before Defcon and I’m Chicago airport on my layover. Is there a status on when wifireg.defcon.org is going live this year?

I am not part of NOC so I am not able to tell you their plan this year.

Last year, Monday was Internet link and setup by NOC, then Tuesday they worked on wifireg and wifi setup:
https://noc.defcon.org/media/DC32/DC32-slides-NOC.pdf

Last year, (or 2024) they provided updates on twitter/X:
URL1=https://x.com/DEFCON_NOC/status/1820905453842567369

Oh heyo! It’s Tuesday and guess what? It’s time for https://wifireg.defcon.org #defcon #defcon32

Maybe they will have a similar update this year?
Good luck!