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  • corry20
    Member
    • Jun 2003
    • 11

    #1

    Firewalls

    What is the best firewall to use?
  • audit
    Mentally Fucked up!
    • Aug 2002
    • 92

    #2
    Re: Firewalls

    Originally posted by corry20
    What is the best firewall to use?
    Do you have any idea's how broad of a question that is? Are you talking personal or for a business? If for a business, then you'll need to specify a lot more then what you did.

    audit

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    • Chris
      Great Satan of the East
      • Oct 2001
      • 2866

      #3
      Re: Firewalls

      Originally posted by corry20
      What is the best firewall to use?
      Buy either a Pix, Sidewinder, or Checkpoint Nokia appliance. They should take care of your needs
      perl -e 'print pack(c5, (41*2), sqrt(7056), (unpack(c,H)-2), oct(115), 10)'

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      • ck3k
        thoughtcriminal
        • Jul 2002
        • 1350

        #4
        I was looking at physical firewalls, to use here at the house, I was wondering if anyone has a cost effective solution, that beats the software firewalls.
        ~:CK:~
        I would like to meet a 1 to keep my 0 company.

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        • DrStrangeCheese
          Member
          • Aug 2003
          • 72

          #5
          Old box + Linux

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          • ck3k
            thoughtcriminal
            • Jul 2002
            • 1350

            #6
            Originally posted by DrStrangeCheese
            Old box + Linux
            the ip tables, thing i am guessing, I got an old p3 500 around, i suppose it should be put to use.
            ~:CK:~
            I would like to meet a 1 to keep my 0 company.

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            • eNzYmeS
              Member
              • Aug 2003
              • 4

              #7
              Hey ck3k...

              Do you have a configuration of IP Tables..?
              I wish to ask a copy from you...is it okay to have one..?

              Thankx buddy :D

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              • ck3k
                thoughtcriminal
                • Jul 2002
                • 1350

                #8
                I will try and get around to it, I might also be running sniffers off of the box, so smaller the better. Thanks again everyone, and no I dont have a config for ip tables....had dial up my whole life until a few days ago.
                ~:CK:~
                I would like to meet a 1 to keep my 0 company.

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                • DrStrangeCheese
                  Member
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 72

                  #9
                  Just one more thing to add.

                  IPTABLES Config Wizard

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                  • ExtremeEsprit
                    NoEvil
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 7

                    #10
                    Depends what you want...
                    Safer generally means slower and less accessible.
                    Well known brands are better documented for bugs and hacks.

                    Hell.. these days you can even buy a gen 3 stateful inspection firewall for less than $70.00

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                    • guano
                      Unconfirmed Email
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 58

                      #11
                      I usually recommend the SMB Barricade to my SOHO customers. Something like the SMC7004ABR.

                      Benefits:
                      - Painless installation that works with external modem, DSL, or cable modem.
                      - Includes DHCP server (for those folks who don't run their own internal DNS -- and manually managing /etc/hosts is just nuts).
                      - Includes a lpd that turns the printer into a network printer! No more printing through someone's Windows-shares.
                      - No known exploits. There's been a few minor risks from internal, but nothing external.
                      - Inexpensive. Amazon, et. al. have it for under $80.

                      I generally stay away from "old Linux box" solutions for a few reasons:
                      1. Size/power. An old computer is big, bulky, and takes up significant physical space and electricity compared to something like the SMC, Linksys, or NetGear home firewall solutions.
                      2. Maintenance. You need to keep up with the patches! And hard drives/fans fail over time. The home firewall solutions have no moving parts = much less risk of failure.
                      3. Risk factor. It's still a "computer". I've seen black-hats compromise them and install IRC servers, back doors, etc.
                      4. Cost. Assuming your time is worth something, it will probably take a few hours to blow on Linux and configure the system for your liking. If you're really talented and had done it before, I'd guess 2 hours. (2 hours at a cheap $40/hr is still $80.) You cannot beat the home firewall cost.

                      NOTE: If you are talking for a big company, or a home with special needs (e.g., NetMeeting, or other services that require every port to be open), then I'd start looking at Cisco for the feature set. (If you can afford Cisco, then go that way, otherwise just look for the features you want and then aim toward less expensive vendors...)

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                      • spahkle
                        Absurd Fetishist
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 418

                        #12
                        I love my PIX 501

                        granted it's not the most intuitive (which cli firewall rulesets are), but it works well for what I'm looking for
                        “Bigamy is having one wife too many. Monogamy is the same.”

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                        • pezz
                          Unconfirmed Email
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 736

                          #13
                          Was recently quited sidewinder +support for around 3k. If you have that kind of money to blow....

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                          • jascha
                            Member
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 3

                            #14
                            There are many howtos on building OpenBSD (http://openbsd.org) firewalls using PF. I use them at home for my honeynet and they run on old 486s and 133s very well. Also use them as Snort nodes etc.

                            http://www.muine.org/~hoang/openpf.html

                            http://homepages.gold.ac.uk/veghead/wot/openbsd.html

                            You can also run a firewall off of a bootable 'live CD' distro as another alternative.


                            -J-
                            =============<>

                            (150+ security tools on a bootable CD fitting on a miniCD.)
                            "Proving no 127.0.0.1 is safe."

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                            • skroo
                              Volatile Compound
                              • Dec 2001
                              • 2348

                              #15
                              Originally posted by guano
                              I usually recommend the SMB Barricade to my SOHO customers. Something like the SMC7004ABR.
                              Not a bad box at all, IMHO. If you can stretch your budget to around $400 though, I'd recommend the Cisco Pix 501. They're very configurable, highly reliable, and support VPN access.

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