Questions About Software Piracy

[Mouradin]

To those of you who own/use ###ACCESS DENIED ### (and to some who don't) you are aware of microsoft's attempts to limit piracy of their software by limiting the number of comp's that one is allowed to install the product on to one. I, for one, feel this is ludicrous. Yes, I know, there are some out there who have no respect (in this case, I am sadly starting to lose mine) for the corporate industries and would rather screw them and use their product anyway rather than legitimately obtain and utilize the company's hard work. This is not the case for me. I am simply trying to network three of my home comp's together through one sever computer, and have ###ACCESS DENIED ### on all of them without having to buy a copy for each of them. The issue of activation over the phone for my two workstation computers is really starting to piss me off....(especially when i only have 16 days left to activate them)......and I really don't feel that anyone whould have to buy separate copies of a very expensive OS for each comp if they are networking. What is a small (or even big) business suppose to do with ###ACCESS DENIED ###? Buy a copy for each of their some-odd-hundred sever/and or workstations? Or even pay more money just to sweet talk a way into getting microsoft to sell them a separate license agreement that allows them to? This, again, is ludicrous.

-------Problem: need help to find a way to be able to have###ACCESS DENIED ###activated on my three home comps without (bending over for microsoft and) forking out around 900 bucks just to do it.

-------And yes i have already legitimately obtained one copy and am not running off anuthing priated.......(for those who might have asked).....

[astcell]

What you are asking is illegal. If you have three cars you pay for three licenses and registrations. What you want to do is get just one plate and switch it around on your cars. Sorry, just booting up the PC and not doing anything is still "using" the software according to the license.

Get ###ACCESS DENIED ###, it is so much nicer in networking than ###ACCESS DENIED ###. If you can afford three computers and a server, you can shell out a few bucks to play by the rules.

[blackwave]

Mouradin, this forum and its members do not condone and/or promote software piracy - which is exactly what you are doing. Please cease and desist. If you cannot afford software try and using something that doesn't cost as much such as linux. Sure it requires more for you to learn (which really isn't a bad thing), but at least you aren't doing anything out of the legal bounds (especially after SCO falls to its knees and dies)

Thank you and enjoy your time on DEFCON Forums.

[Mouradin]

Win XP Home

I get the picture and apologize for requesting that the forum and its members partake in (apparantly) aiding software piracy and wish to make no 'bad waves' against defcon or its members. I truly did not mean to resort to such rescources as piracy or hacking, but only meant to ask for aid from someone who understood the eula (end license user agreement) more than I. To my understanding, my request was supported in the agreement and I was frustrated and confused about why microsoft would not comply.

-----So, again, no hard feelings.......

[blackwave]

To my understanding, my request was supported in the agreement and I was frustrated and confused about why microsoft would not comply.

Please feel free to state exactly the quoted text from MS that gives validity to your argument.

why microsoft would not comply.

... in this day and age it is the sheeple that must comply, not the giant whom consumes them.

[Mouradin]

Please feel free to state exactly the quoted text from MS that gives validity to your argument.


... in this day and age it is the sheeple that must comply, not the giant whom consumes them.

"You may permit a
maximum of five (5) computers or other electronic devices
(each a "Device") to connect to the Workstation Computer
to utilize the services of the Product solely for File
and Print services, Internet Information Services, and
remote access (including connection sharing and telephony
services). The five connection maximum includes any
indirect connections made through "multiplexing" or other
software or hardware which pools or aggregates
connections."


--------And by the way, i am almost positive that when I first intsalled this OS this section was not worded like this......only after I gave my comp permission to download some-odd thirty service packs from their website.........The odds are highly improbable but it just doesn't look right.

[blackwave]

"You may permit a
maximum of five (5) computers or other electronic devices
(each a "Device") to connect to the Workstation Computer
to utilize the services of the Product solely for File
and Print services, Internet Information Services, and
remote access (including connection sharing and telephony
services). The five connection maximum includes any
indirect connections made through "multiplexing" or other
software or hardware which pools or aggregates
connections."


--------And by the way, i am almost positive that when I first intsalled this OS this section was not worded like this......only after I gave my comp permission to download some-odd thirty service packs from their website.........The odds are highly improbable but it just doesn't look right.

Ok this is stating that you can have up to 5 computer devices to connect to your one licensed machine for filesharing and printing services... In your initial thread you state that:

"
I am simply trying to network three of my home comp's together through one sever computer, and have ###ACCESS DENIED ### on all of them without having to buy a copy for each of them.

So you then you must be saying that you have :
3 fully licensed "client" machines
1 fully licensed "server" machine
... and that you simply cannot figure out a way to network them together?

If you are not saying this is correct, then what is it exactly that you are trying to say AND remain in compliance with MS?

Remember on this thread we already cleared the piracy issue and your awareness with it...

[Kry0NiK]

why would someone of your 1338-ness need any machines much less 4?

Let me guess, you also emailed the webmaster at riaa.org asking how to download copyrighted music with kazaa.

[TwinVega]

I think what's he's asking for is another serial number...why didn't you say so? Wanna hear it, here it goes.
UGOFU-CKURS-ELFAN-DBUYA-NUDAC-OPYMK
This should clear up any of your pirating woes. Happy trails to you, until we meet again.

[guano]

NOTE: I'm not a lawyer. If you don't understand the licensing agreement, then you should consult someone who does (aka Lawyer). You should not interpret my reply as legal advice.

"You may permit a
maximum of five (5) computers or other electronic devices
(each a "Device") to connect to the Workstation Computer
to utilize the services of the Product solely for File
and Print services, Internet Information Services, and
remote access (including connection sharing and telephony
services). The five connection maximum includes any
indirect connections made through "multiplexing" or other
software or hardware which pools or aggregates
connections."

This is a common clause found in many server packages. Basically, you didn't shell out enough for an unlimited server. This license says that only 5 other systems can use your computer as a server. This clause is unclear whether the "5 computers or electronic devices" are "at a time" or "ever" -- that is, can 1000 systems use your server as long as it's only 5 at a time?

And by the way, i am almost positive that when I first intsalled this OS this section was not worded like this......only after I gave my comp permission to download some-odd thirty service packs from their website.........The odds are highly improbable but it just doesn't look right.

Correct. Your original EULA said something along the lines of "you agree to any future changes to the EULA." Microsoft gave themselves the right to change the terms of the agreement at any time. By uploading some patch/upgrade, you accepted the terms of the new agreement.