CyberInsecurity: The Cost of Monopoly

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  • pezz
    Unconfirmed Email
    • Jan 2003
    • 736

    #1

    CyberInsecurity: The Cost of Monopoly

    http://www.ccianet.org/papers/cyberinsecurity.pdf

    Although I don't agree or disagree with most of the concepts presented, I feel there are more professional ways of presentinng this information.

    Several thoughts came to mind while reading this.....this has to be one of the biggest rants / whining I have heard for a while.
    Basically the way this information was presented seemed too much like a child wanting a sucker in the supermarket check out line.
    Last edited by pezz; September 25, 2003, 10:58.
  • digital warfare
    asshat banned 4 life
    • Sep 2003
    • 22

    #2
    wow cyberinsecurity lol this thread should be named baby writes the most crappiest web page ever

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    • Chris
      Great Satan of the East
      • Oct 2001
      • 2866

      #3
      Originally posted by pezz
      http://www.ccianet.org/papers/cyberinsecurity.pdf

      Although I don't agree or disagree with most of the concepts presented
      Way to take a firm stand.
      perl -e 'print pack(c5, (41*2), sqrt(7056), (unpack(c,H)-2), oct(115), 10)'

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      • digital warfare
        asshat banned 4 life
        • Sep 2003
        • 22

        #4
        lol that page was so childish

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        • pezz
          Unconfirmed Email
          • Jan 2003
          • 736

          #5
          Originally posted by Chris
          Way to take a firm stand.
          Actually I am trying out my new political skills. heh

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          • Zhym
            Member
            • Jul 2003
            • 57

            #6
            Geer, Schneier, Metzger - man, what a bunch of amateurs.

            What's next? Vinton Cerf making pronouncements about the Internet?

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            • TRUNX883
              Member
              • Sep 2003
              • 4

              #7
              Better check with your employer before you author any scathing articles against mammoth monopolies that your company is in cahoots with (i'm from the midwest i can say cahoots)

              http://www.securityfocus.com/news/7069

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              • pezz
                Unconfirmed Email
                • Jan 2003
                • 736

                #8
                Originally posted by TRUNX883
                Better check with your employer before you author any scathing articles against mammoth monopolies that your company is in cahoots with (i'm from the midwest i can say cahoots)

                http://www.securityfocus.com/news/7069


                Isn't it a common disclaimer to say "the following opinion is mine and mine alone. My opinion in no way, shape or form reflects that of my employer" ?

                I have heard this from many cough*cough*3 letter gov persons*cough*cough!

                <agreed>"We think the way the (CCIA) paper is positioned ... is just not the answer."
                </agreed>
                Last edited by pezz; September 26, 2003, 13:08.

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                • yankee
                  Transmutation
                  • May 2003
                  • 113

                  #9
                  Originally posted by TRUNX883
                  Better check with your employer before you author any scathing articles against mammoth monopolies that your company is in cahoots with (i'm from the midwest i can say cahoots)

                  http://www.securityfocus.com/news/7069
                  The weird thing is he lost his job for actually doing his job. I mean, this guy's job is to research security, right? Would anyone at @stake with half a technical mind dare to try and debate the points outlined in the paper? I doubt it, because the paper's dead on.

                  This isn't about pissing-off MS or publishing w/o your employers permission--it's about truth. It was a very difficult lesson for me to learn, but nearly all people don't want to hear the truth. They want to take the blue pill and wake in their beds and believe whatever. Geer just got caught being a little too good at his job.

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                  • pezz
                    Unconfirmed Email
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 736

                    #10
                    Originally posted by yankee
                    The weird thing is he lost his job for actually doing his job. I mean, this guy's job is to research security, right? Would anyone at @stake with half a technical mind dare to try and debate the points outlined in the paper? I doubt it, because the paper's dead on.

                    This isn't about pissing-off MS or publishing w/o your employers permission--it's about truth. It was a very difficult lesson for me to learn, but nearly all people don't want to hear the truth. They want to take the blue pill and wake in their beds and believe whatever. Geer just got caught being a little too good at his job.
                    You could look at it anyway you like. Let's say for example it was anything else. Should I blame myself for putting simple locks on my doors, or the intruder who pops the locks and comes in to help herself.

                    Simple point...the damage is caused by those who create the intrusion.

                    Another example.....M...S....falls into the great pit of death...another SW firm rises...again the same circle. and again and again

                    Perhaps right now linux is the answer, perhaps diversification is the answer....perhaps putting a walmart bag over my head for several minutes is the answer.......

                    :D :D :D :D

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