CD Copy Protection Broken

[yankee]

From EFF:

October 06, 2003
Princeton researcher debunks copy protection, again

Princeton computer science student Alex Halderman has released a paper describing a one-click method to bypass the "copy protection" on the recently released Anthony Hamilton CD from BMG. "Halderman's paper illustrates exactly who's hurt by copy protections: the ordinary user, who can't move tracks to his iPod without going to KaZaA to get the music he has already paid for," said EFF Staff Attorney Wendy Seltzer. "These so-called speed bumps haven't kept songs off the peer-to-peer networks, they've only made it more difficult for the public to make fair use of music from authorized sources."

See http://www.eff.org/news/breaking/arc..._10.php#000504

[ck3k]

my thought of this is, that if someone makes a restrictive technology there will always be people that want it removed. Xbox was a good example, you couldnt run linux on it, so people took steps to see that you can.

[converge]

my thought of this is, that if someone makes a restrictive technology there will always be people that want it removed. Xbox was a good example, you couldnt run linux on it, so people took steps to see that you can.

And frankly, I really enjoy have 120gb of space to store shit on the box, as well as the ability to copy my games locally so that I don't have to keep flipping discs and replacing scratched ones.... Microsoft is so paranoid about people that use the features to pirate that they are hindering quite valid functionality. Then again, all the money is made on the software, so I guess disc scratching is actually preferred :)

[Xodia]

Thats what I am loving about sony, in their Plan for the Playstation 3. According to this:
http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/20...0709020731.htm
The playstation 3 will have a dvd-burner built in. So sony is basically ASKING people to burn their games.

[bobaxos]

from our stand point, yes thats what it looks like. But i am sure there will be one roadblock in our way to keep us from burning games, but nothing that cant be over come of course.

[renderman]

Does this mean that Shift Keys are going to become illegal to posesses under the DMCA?

How about just pressing them?

[DISINGENUOUS]

from our stand point, yes thats what it looks like. But i am sure there will be one roadblock in our way to keep us from burning games, but nothing that cant be over come of course.

Most likely, knowing what I know, (for those of you who know my employer understand this) is that it will be tied into the Sony Magic Gate encryption and authoring system, which will prevent anything being burnt that wasn't authored on the individual PS3 system itself.

Mainly, the DVD will be for burning tv shows you record with the integrated DVR/TiVO system.

[Xodia]

Most likely, knowing what I know, (for those of you who know my employer understand this) is that it will be tied into the Sony Magic Gate encryption and authoring system, which will prevent anything being burnt that wasn't authored on the individual PS3 system itself.

Mainly, the DVD will be for burning tv shows you record with the integrated DVR/TiVO system.

That is a nifty feature, but whats going to prevent some type of mod chip from disabling this? Or is the encryption system already banking on something like that?

[DISINGENUOUS]

That is a nifty feature, but whats going to prevent some type of mod chip from disabling this? Or is the encryption system already banking on something like that?

To tell teh truth, you'd need to run a different OS on the thing, which would then make it like any other computer/dvd burner.

All mod chips do when the detection test of performed on teh disk, it automatically gives a signal to teh board. Magic Gate is far different from this, as it's part of teh over all encoding process. It effective checks GUID's from all hardware involved, including all memory cards.

It's used on the PS2 cards right now, with the PS2 gen of the platform.

The way its suppose dto work, is that all data on a machine running a MG routine get's encoded at all times. It's ubiquous. The macine or software can then call on the MG to verify the author and see if the permissions matced. They could, if they wanted, create gamesaves that will only work with the game on the same mem card and hardware console. This hasn't been done yet, but I suspect it will be tracked with teh online games, to verify or prevent character theft.

I know that all the MG codes can beverified when you go online with a nework adater, and your base S/N, NIC S/N and MAC are verified everytime. Switch Adapters with somebody and use the same mem card, or even trade cards, and neither NIC will go online without re-registering.

Sony has an extensive server that monitors what's happeneing when you sign on. Anyone that hs one, tap a sniffer on it, and you'll see packets headed out to a home registration server everytime you go online.

(no no... I had nothing to do with the dev of the product. No, not me. Honest.)

[renderman]

Does this mean that Shift Keys are going to become illegal to posesses under the DMCA?

How about just pressing them?

Apparently I was right:

http://home.businesswire.com/portal/...ewID=news_view

In addition, SunnComm believes that Halderman has violated the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) by disclosing unpublished MediaMax management files placed on a user's computer after user approval is granted. Once the file is found and deleted according to the instructions given in the Princeton grad student's report, the MediaMax copy management system can be bypassed resulting in the copyright protected music being converted or misappropriated for potentially unauthorized and/or illegal use. SunnComm intends to refer this possible felony to authorities having jurisdiction over these matters because: 1. The author admits that he disabled the driver in order to make an unprotected copy of the disc's contents, and 2. SunnComm believes that the author's report was "disseminated in a manner which facilitates infringement" in violation of the DMCA or other applicable law.

[hackajar]

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In addition, SunnComm believes that Halderman has violated the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) by disclosing unpublished MediaMax management files placed on a user's computer after user approval is granted. Once the file is found and deleted according to the instructions given in the Princeton grad student's report, the MediaMax copy management system can be bypassed resulting in the copyright protected music being converted or misappropriated for potentially unauthorized and/or illegal use. SunnComm intends to refer this possible felony to authorities having jurisdiction over these matters because: 1. The author admits that he disabled the driver in order to make an unprotected copy of the disc's contents, and 2. SunnComm believes that the author's report was "disseminated in a manner which facilitates infringement" in violation of the DMCA or other applicable law.


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Sounds like someone is screwed

[Xodia]

Thanks for the informative reply shatter....nah, sounds like you couldn't be on the team, you don't seem to know much about it. :)

[DISINGENUOUS]

Thanks for the informative reply shatter....nah, sounds like you couldn't be on the team, you don't seem to know much about it. :)

Well, not anymore.

That was last year. :)

[bobaxos]

holy crap that is garbage, so now you are not allowed to delete files on your own computer? what is this world comming to? Someon shoot me now. It was expected to happen sooner or later (him being called out). But he could take his article and generalize it as a way to disable auto-load on cds and then he should be ok. the DMCA is clearly being abused.

[Coolleroy]

And frankly, I really enjoy have 120gb of space to store shit on the box, as well as the ability to copy my games locally so that I don't have to keep flipping discs and replacing scratched ones.... Microsoft is so paranoid about people that use the features to pirate that they are hindering quite valid functionality. Then again, all the money is made on the software, so I guess disc scratching is actually preferred :)

Wow, how'd you copy the disks to the HD?