What do you consider the most secure system?

[skroo]

Hmmm were any viruses ever written for the Kaypro-1? Makes me wonder what the first virus ever was.

I make no claims as to the accuracy of this link, but a lot of what it discusses matches what I remember.

The first virus I remember seeing in action, so to speak, was the Pakistani Brain virus on the PC, and the Ghost virus on the Atari ST (the one that would reverse the direction of X and Y inputs from the mouse, if anyone else remembers).

PCs at my college were perpetually infected with (usually) the Form virus - so badly so that they actually hired one of the CS students to write an antivirus utility called Domesdos (it was named after Domestos, a brand of disinfecting cleaner sold in the UK).

[d3thStaR]

I think I'll have to go with unix. SunOS and most the others are VERY good at what they're meant to do.

[valkyrie]

I make no claims as to the accuracy of this link, but a lot of what it discusses matches what I remember.

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Thanks for the link, Skroo. The bibliography page is an excellent list of references.

r0cketgrl

[Beginner]

plan 9.....from what I hear.
http://www.cs.bell-labs.com/plan9dist/

thanks for the link

[hackajar]

out of the box, OpenBSD claims to be the ruler (suprised no one has mentioned it). With 1 remote hole in 6 years (ok it might be more then 1 last I checked). All the same that does take alot of the guess work out of it. Although you do sacrifice speed for pice of mind

[pbxphreak]

its the admins that make the system secure. and keep the systems running up to par. if they know what they are doing, do there dialy tasks monitoring everything. there shouldnt be any issues. we all run freebsd on all our machines.

[Beginner]

Hmmm were any viruses ever written for the Kaypro-1? Makes me wonder what the first virus ever was.

Ido believe the first computer virus wasthe 1986 Brain virus released in Pakistan

[Beginner]

Ido believe the first computer virus wasthe 1986 Brain virus released in Pakistan

Excuse me I ment to say: I do believe the first computer virus was the 1986 Brain virus released in Pakistan. And the PC-Write Trojan was the first Trojan horse.

[Beginner]

its the admins that make the system secure. and keep the systems running up to par. if they know what they are doing, do there dialy tasks monitoring everything. there shouldnt be any issues. we all run freebsd on all our machines.

So all have a dislike for M$?

[sysctl]

are we talking trusted systems here? if so (or otherwise) i know of very few which adhere closely to the orange book criteria model, much less the higher levels such as A/B (which specify the use of a locked vault under armed guard among other "extreme" measures). for reference/example, linux barely slides into the C category since it employs password shadowing but lacks any type of MAC (mandatory access control) mechanism. there are other, similar models as well such as EAL.

most trusted systems such as trustedbsd, selinux, LIDS (patch for linux kernel), etc fall short of their goal.

but as far as the original topic goes, it depends on the model/criteria for which the OS is considered secure. some would argue that stripped down operating systems, such as those used on network appliances (ipso, ios, etc), to be the most secure; as they should be for the role they perform.

i've worked with a lot of operating systems and to even begin to approach a topic like this is an exhausting experience in and of itself.