IE exploits

[mpkn3rd]

Well, it looks like M$ has to figure out a few more patches for their premier browser.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/34186.html

[skroo]

Well, it looks like M$ has to figure out a few more patches for their premier browser.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/34186.html

Yep. Also, anyone concerned about IE's inherent security should check out Mozilla's Firebird, the browser-only version of Mozilla. It's small, fast, and widely-supported. After being an Opera user on different platforms for several years, I junked it in favour of Firebird and am MUCH happier. Tabbed browsing rocks, and the rendering speed is second-to-none. IE exists solely on my laptop anymore to run applications that require it.

[EeeekPenguins]

Hey skroo have you tried Crazy Browser to replace your IE? It works with most things that require IE and has tabbed browsing and a pop-up blocker.

[ck3k]

On my slower/small hd boxen I use firebird as well, its lean and it is mean. The only issue I have seen with mozilla/firebird, is that the plugins sometimes suck, like my flash player clips and sound isnt great.

[Zhym]

FWIW, Opera has supported tabbed browsing at least since version 6. I agree, it's the only way to browse.

I'm a big fan of Opera. It has trouble rendering some of the more IE-specific pages, but it also has enough of the security features that I don't miss the Proxomitron in linux.

[mpkn3rd]

You Opera user may want to look at this, as you need to be at the latest rev 7.23 as the earlier versions have several vulnerabilities.

http://winnetmag.com/articles/index.cfm?articleid=40969

Also for the Flash problem with Firebird, I found a strange work around. I downloaded Mozilla and then installed Flash Player on it as it would allow it, where Firebird doesn't. I then copied NPSWF32.dll from the Mozilla plugin folder to the same plugin folder in Firebird. Flash will then work.

I still have not found a work around for the Java Script problem, I have contacted the developers and have had no response. If anyone here knows of a work around I would appreciate it.

[bascule]

Well, I'm stuck in Safari for the time being (there's not much point in using the OS X version of Opera, especially with a touchpad)

...but I really wonder how people can stand web browsing without Fast Forward/Rewind. I guess people can stand clunky, repetative back/hunt down the next link browsing simply because they've never known the convenience of having the browser do that for you. "I know why the caged bird sings" so to speak...

[murakami]

Well, I'm stuck in Safari for the time being (there's not much point in using the OS X version of Opera, especially with a touchpad)

...but I really wonder how people can stand web browsing without Fast Forward/Rewind.

Is this a browser thing in Safari or a Mac thing? My thinkpad has this feature and it works with post browsers, including firebird.

[bascule]

Is this a browser thing in Safari or a Mac thing? My thinkpad has this feature and it works with post browsers, including firebird.

Fast Forward and Rewind are Opera features. Opera parses pages looking for links with text like "Next"/"Prev" or "<<"/">>" or pages with links to images and creates special contextual back/forward-like navigation for these pages, with no page author intervention required.

[skroo]

Hey skroo have you tried Crazy Browser to replace your IE? It works with most things that require IE and has tabbed browsing and a pop-up blocker.

To be honest, I haven't. Then again, most of the time I don't have to work in Windows unless we have an application that requires it. I will definitely check it out, though.

[jesse]

it's not like crazy browser would fix the security holes in IE anyway.

I just install the google toolbar, since that now blocks popups, if I have to use IE.

[skroo]

it's not like crazy browser would fix the security holes in IE anyway.

I just install the google toolbar, since that now blocks popups, if I have to use IE.

My main bitch with IE is that we're forced to use it in order to run several Java-based apps that perform certain SNMP-based tasks on our network. Java, theoretically, should be platform-independent - unfortunately, the dickheads who wrote the suite have basically tied us down to having to use a Windows platform to manage our network, and to make matters worse it explicitly checks for a certain version of the JRE (I currently have three different JREs on my machine to use for specific applications) so you can never upgrade it or change the browser.

I just love the fact that the aforementioned dickheads happen to be Cisco, and can't comprehend that when there's a large-scale worm event taking place on your network, you'd really much rather be working from a non-Windows-based OS on your laptop while you're trying to track down the offenders.