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[blazinganja420]

hey all. Whats crackin. I have a little prob. i set up an XP box in another room of my house and was goona try and hack it. I have another XP box in which im goin to use.

Now I have an ip scanner and a port scanner, i even have the ip for the other box. but for some reason it wont show up. ive tried telnetting and ftp and it wont let me even connect. There are no firewalls or routers, and remote sharing is on.

If anyone has some useful info as to y it just doesnt show up it would be helpful. ive allready googled it to no availe.

[bascule]

hey all. Whats crackin. I have a little prob. i set up an XP box in another room of my house and was goona try and hack it.

blazinganja420, don't you have something more productive you could be doing, like smoking superchronz out of your ultrabong?

[skroo]

If anyone has some useful info as to y it just doesnt show up it would be helpful. ive allready googled it to no availe.

My guess would be that the network configuration is mismatched, or that you're trying to hit the wrong IP address. How are the boxes getting their IP addresses?

Also, XP does not run telnet or FTP by default. Just something to keep in mind.

[blazinganja420]

they get their IP from the isp i believe

[skroo]

they get their IP from the isp i believe

OK. Only one of those machines is going to get its IP from the ISP, and it'll be the one that's connected to your dialup / cable modem / DSL / whatever. Basically, for your setup (not knowing any differently, I'm assuming you're running a piece of CAT5 directly between them) if they don't both have IP addresses on the same network, they'll never be able to see each other.

Start here: http://www.wown.com/ - tutorials and walkthroughs on Windows home networking. Should be of some help.

[highwizard]

hey all. Whats crackin. I have a little prob. i set up an XP box in another room of my house and was goona try and hack it. I have another XP box in which im goin to use.

Now I have an ip scanner and a port scanner, i even have the ip for the other box. but for some reason it wont show up. ive tried telnetting and ftp and it wont let me even connect. There are no firewalls or routers, and remote sharing is on.

If anyone has some useful info as to y it just doesnt show up it would be helpful. ive allready googled it to no availe.

Are you attempting to network the two together with a crossover cable?

[blazinganja420]

i didnt even think of networking them. i have a dail up and i dont have a cable between the 2.

and thanks skroo for the link it should be helpful

[ck3k]

i didnt even think of networking them. i have a dail up and i dont have a cable between the 2.

and thanks skroo for the link it should be helpful

....wow....

[blazinganja420]

wow what??

[bascule]

i didnt even think of networking them. i have a dail up and i dont have a cable between the 2.

So wait, you're dialing both computers into your ISP... at once, over two phone lines? Or what? If so, it's possible your ISP may have their own firewalls in place...

[skroo]

So wait, you're dialing both computers into your ISP... at once, over two phone lines? Or what? If so, it's possible your ISP may have their own firewalls in place...

Most likely his ISP has RADIUS set to disallow multiple simltaneous logins. One of those boxes will never get an IP as a result.

[EeeekPenguins]

Since you dial-up you probably have a dynamic IP (it changes each time you sign in). What I would suggest is getting a cheap linksys or D-link router from a computer store, then buy two network cards and connecting them to this router. This is a real fun and safe way to learn about hacking your own computers, it shoudl cost you under $100. Once you set up your network you will get a network IP for each box. Once you have figured out how to hack the box you can add more security to it and then try again. Good Luck.

Wasn't jumping on anyone, just trying to be funny, gee no one laughs anymore, has DC come to a screaching serious halt.

Well it seemed to me that you were being funny, at someone elses expense. Most of us are guilty of it, but unless you are contributing positively to the post dont contribute at all.

[Clp727]

A cheap way that he/she could connect the two computers is to buy a couple of ethernet cards (Really cheap ones are about $12.00 at WalMart), and a crossover cable. Then install NetBEUI on both boxes, and set up a pier to pier network. TCP/IP would still be used to access the internet through his modem or NIC, and communication between the two boxes can be accomplished via NetBEUI.Total cost may be around $35.00.
If you have GFI LANguard Network Security Scanner, you can scan a windows box by its netbios name, or its IP address. To find the IP address of both your computers, type "ipconfig /all" from your command promt.
THEN, when enough money has been saved, you can purchase the regular cables and a router at a later time. Then get rid of NetBEUI because it isn't a routable protocol.

Good luck!

[skroo]

You're basically correct. However...

Then install NetBEUI on both boxes, and set up a pier to pier network.

Actually, what he needs is NetBIOS, not NetBEUI (which essentially runs on top of NetBIOS). Under XP, this is enabled by default. The 98/Me line were the last Windows platforms to explicitly require it to be installed.

TCP/IP would still be used to access the internet through his modem or NIC, and communication between the two boxes can be accomplished via NetBEUI.

Hence the link to http://www.wown.com .

[Clp727]

Thanks skroo. I didn't realize that. I learned something again. :)
What I suggested was actually what I had to do to my Win ME and Win 2000 boxes at home before I bought a router.

I saved the link in my favorites for future reference. Thanks again!