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    So Sun made Solaris free on x86 and I thought I would try it out. Big mistake, it sucks! First I had to swap parts until I finally gave up on one of my computers I thought I would try it on and I thought it would work on my other one. The first one I wanted to reinstall anyway but the other one had a partition taking up half the hard drive. I could not get Solaris to not use the whole disk, and when I thought I had it, it overwrite my Gentoo partition on the computer. I screamed for like half an hour, argh. Then I tried getting into the computer with a Knoppix CD and trying to resurrect the filesystem, but it was a goner it overwrite the superblock and everything so I was screwed. I lost a bunch of my files including everything I've written so far trying to learn Python.

    Well, I figured now that I've destroyed all my precious data I'd try to get something out of it. So I kept going, and this time it actually installed which is good. But I could not get X Windows going. And my network card was not supported either. I wanted to get a bunch of data onto it. So I hook a CD drive up but it doesn't see it. So I made a hard drive UFS on my OpenBSD router then copied the files I wanted over to it then put the hard drive in and it doesn't see it. I can't figure out why, check the cables over and over, test the drive in other computers, argh. All the hardware is good, it must be this damned software!

    Turns out the Solaris devfs is CRAPPY. It doesn't scan devices each boot, you have to TELL it to scan devices by chreating a file. How dumb is that. It means to add any hardware you MUST reboot. Wanna plug your digital camera in or USB drive? Gotta reboot. Linux is SOOO much better than that, you can plug in USB HOT and it will work. Plus it just makes it easier when you mess around with hardware a lot like move drives and stuff that you don't have to tell the computer to rescan. Now if it were for speed I would understand, but Solaris boots like 20 times slower than Linux.

    I heard Solaris is good on Sun processors, but on x86 stay away, unless you want it to destroy all your data and not even support any hardware, or be able to run X Windows.

  • #2
    Originally posted by kidlinux
    So Sun made Solaris free on x86 and I thought I would try it out. Big mistake, it sucks!
    Uh, I was going to respond to certain of your points individually, but decided to take the generic route.

    What exactly were you expecting from Solaris before you installed it? It's not Linux. It's not meant to be or do what Linux is or does. And in that respect you learned a valuable lesson: inexperience == deleted filesystems.

    I have plenty of gripes with Solaris (particularly the x86 version); I also have plenty more with Linux. But don't say that the OS "sucks" because you don't understand what it's meant to do, how it operates, or how to install it.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by kidlinux
      I could not get Solaris to not use the whole disk, and when I thought I had it, it overwrite my Gentoo partition on the computer. I screamed for like half an hour, argh. Then I tried getting into the computer with a Knoppix CD and trying to resurrect the filesystem, but it was a goner it overwrite the superblock and everything so I was screwed. I lost a bunch of my files including everything I've written so far trying to learn Python.
      Congratulations! Today you've learned the importance of backups!

      I wanted to get a bunch of data onto it. So I hook a CD drive up but it doesn't see it. So I made a hard drive UFS on my OpenBSD router then copied the files I wanted over to it then put the hard drive in and it doesn't see it. I can't figure out why, check the cables over and over, test the drive in other computers, argh. All the hardware is good, it must be this damned software! Turns out the Solaris devfs is CRAPPY. It doesn't scan devices each boot, you have to TELL it to scan devices by chreating a file. How dumb is that. It means to add any hardware you MUST reboot. Wanna plug your digital camera in or USB drive? Gotta reboot. Linux is SOOO much better than that, you can plug in USB HOT and it will work. Plus it just makes it easier when you mess around with hardware a lot like move drives and stuff that you don't have to tell the computer to rescan. Now if it were for speed I would understand, but Solaris boots like 20 times slower than Linux.
      Perhaps if you'd actually take the time to learn Solaris you'd know that you can run the 'devfsadm' command to rebuild /dev and /devices. Unlike Linux, a daemon maintains the /dev tree, and maintains a very logical device tree layout perhaps impossible with a kernel implementation alone.

      I heard Solaris is good on Sun processors, but on x86 stay away, unless you want it to destroy all your data and not even support any hardware, or be able to run X Windows.
      Again, for a GUI there's always XFree86...
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      • #4
        Originally posted by kidlinux
        So Sun made Solaris free on x86 and I thought I would try it out. Big mistake, it sucks! ................

        I heard Solaris is good on Sun processors, but on x86 stay away, unless you want it to destroy all your data and not even support any hardware, or be able to run X Windows.

        Haven't you left yet?

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        • #5
          I have taken the Cisco Unix course, which deals entirely with solaris machines, and I find the OS to be somewhat sexy, but it is a pro. OS, not ment for gaming or anything, it is more geared toward a workstation.

          I heard Solaris is good on Sun processors, but on x86 stay away, unless you want it to destroy all your data and not even support any hardware, or be able to run X Windows.
          Then just use windows...
          ~:CK:~
          I would like to meet a 1 to keep my 0 company.

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          • #6
            Our school firewall runs Solaris. Kidlinux, its not as bad as you think. Yes, the x86 version is not exactly what you would call, "friendly", but neither was linux when it was first released. Lots of things werent supported. Linux has its problems too, all systems do. I can see why you wanted to do it though, tis an adventure.
            Why dont you just add the program that checks for new hardware to Solaris's version of the init.local file? There are always ways around things. Think abstractly.

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            • #7
              OMG kidlinux, you can't figure out Solaris x86 so it must be useless?

              lame.
              "Those who would willingly trade essential liberty for temporary security are deserving of neither." --Benjamin Franklin

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              • #8
                Originally posted by kidlinux
                But I could not get X Windows going.
                I heard Solaris is good on Sun processors, but on x86 stay away, unless you want it to destroy all your data and not even support any hardware, or be able to run X Windows.
                As much as I hate the X Consortium:

                % man X
                [...]
                The X Consortium requests that the following names be used when referring to this software:

                X
                X Window System
                X Version 11
                X Window System, Version 11
                X11
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                • #9
                  I could not get Solaris to not use the whole disk, and when I thought I had it, it overwrite my Gentoo partition on the computer.
                  pebcak! i've successfully installed solaris x86 alongside 3 other operating systems with no problems what so ever, it's detected all my hardware, and runs cde like a charm (though not as well as on my ultra 10). perhaps you need to review the solaris disk slice layout? http://multiboot.solaris-x86.org/iv/3.html

                  in case you're still interested though, sun maintains a list of supported hardware on their website. http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by sysctl
                    in case you're still interested though, sun maintains a list of supported hardware on their website. http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/.
                    kidlinux has been banned for being a moron
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                    • #11
                      I'm pleasantly suprised

                      I must say that was the most polite flaming of a dipshit that I have seen in quite some time.

                      You all must be mellowing with age or something.

                      Seriously though..this thread is one of the most non-elitist bullshit type of flame responsed threads that I've seen in a while.

                      Very nice

                      ;)

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