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    There's certainly a lot to talk about here, so I'll start it off...

    I really got a kick out of when Bush said "Portions of the PATRIOT Act are set to expire next year" and a large number of Democrats applauded. Bush actually looked as if he had comprehended what just transpired... it was quite a sight to behold.
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    Originally posted by bascule
    There's certainly a lot to talk about here, so I'll start it off...

    I really got a kick out of when Bush said "Portions of the PATRIOT Act are set to expire next year" and a large number of Democrats applauded. Bush actually looked as if he had comprehended what just transpired... it was quite a sight to behold.
    I concur, I wish I had been recording it just for that moment. I am glad that they took a stand against the Pro-Patriot agenda Bush was pushing.
    The mighty man will become a tinder and his works a spark; both will burn together with nothing to quench the flames.

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    • #3
      I like to call that face George made the, "Oh Shit, They aren't buying it like I thought they would" face.
      The look on some of the audience members when he mentioned weapons of mass destruction was great. It was obvious some people could tell he was grossly exaggerating some of the facts.
      The whole idea of drug testing in schools is ridiculous. Its not the government's place to keep kids from doing drugs. All that will cause is increased spending to punish kids that smoke pot like nearly every other kid has. I'm not promoting drug use in high school, but its not the governments place to fund random drug testing in freaking schools. Its a violation of rights and a huge waste of money that could be spent better.

      I'm curious to see what the commentators say about that little Patriot Act bit here in a few minutes when they come on.
      Last edited by Xodia; January 20, 2004, 19:50.
      The dude abides.

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      • #4
        Personally I am for the Patriot Act, but the fact that it has caught NO terrorists make me against it. It is easy to pass laws to limit freedoms, but very very hard to get them back. I will breathe a sigh of relief when I hear on the news, "Thanks to the Patriot Act, 12 terrorists were captured on US soil with a WMD...."

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        • #5
          what was the thing he was saying about the Marriage thing and the ammendments and stuff about that?

          i got lost cuz i wandered out of the room to play with my cat.

          was this the guy who was talking about making it an ammendment so that our gay friends couldn't get married?


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          • #6
            Yes, seems since some states want to legalize gay marriage and others do not, the federal level will override the state decisions by making marriage only between a man and a woman.

            I have gay friends too, I think they simply need to make up a new word that will be a union between the same sexes. That will fly faster. Don't redefine an existing word. Again.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by DJ Jackalope
              was this the guy who was talking about making it an ammendment so that our gay friends couldn't get married?
              Yes, having been railroaded into a corner by our horrible liberal justice system, the Republicans are attempting to breathe life back into the Defense of Marriage Act by making it the Defense of Marriage Amendment.

              (Of course, Bush will be the first to remind you that the Defense of Marriage act was originally signed into law by Clinton. For those of you who would broach the issue, let me remind you of something we both agree on, I'm sure... Clinton was a schmuck)

              Anway, add this to the list of amendments the Republicans are pushing through Congress during this wonderful period of runaway Republicaniasm when they control both houses of Congress (and the presidency as well, of course)

              The other notable amendment, which would allow "naturalized" foreign-born citizens to run for president I somewhat agree with, but there are more pressing changes that need to be made to the Constitution:

              * Direct election of Supreme Court Justices. Yes, this would create a terrible circus, but it would ensure that the Supreme Court is representative of the dominant value system in this country.

              * National Referrendums: The only way to eliminate (corporate-induced) corruption in government
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              • #8
                I missed it, is there anywhere I can view the video without being charged to see it ala CNN?
                .: Grifter :.

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                • #9
                  Bush spent about 10 mins on war and iraq, yet only 1 or 2 on education and the econ.

                  it seemed more like a state of the war then a state of the union

                  Lets see here...what got me going

                  The gay marriage thing, even tho the word was not spoken, he seemed to say that marrage was an act of god or something and if I read it right something similar to god is against gay people, which is just plain stupid....this also started the religious undertones of the speech, "god is on our side"

                  The patriot act response got me going, I was so happy to see that, it made me have some glimer of hope.

                  The migrant worker thing, we dont have enough jobs as it is, and we shouldnt open the boarders to everyone I believe he said it would help in the war on terrorism, but I dont see how.

                  I also noted that the words the "middle east" was used alot when referring to the area which we are attacking, makes me worry about what his future plans are.

                  The "freedom" word was used when referring to alot of places, yet he thinks the patriot act is a good thing, a little ironic to me

                  He claimed the econ. was on the up, but the us dollar is fultering

                  also, i noticed the iraq president was seated right next to laura bush for a very nice propaganda shot of him, this brings me to another point, what happened to us having elections over there?

                  oh...just watching a rerun....the drug testing in schools, why spend money on that? wasnt bush jr. a coke head? He seems a little weak to be talking to me about drugs. Oh he was an alcholic to...

                  my little sum up of events.....
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DJ Jackalope
                    i got lost cuz i wandered out of the room to play with my cat.
                    Gee... That's really useful for being able to make an informed decision.

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                    • #11
                      I'm in favor of the patriot Act too, and honestly doubt we will see the heading on any news organization "Terrorist caught, thanks to the patriot act" The patriot act is more an intelligence tool, and as such, it follows within those channels. Many treats agains US are been stoped even as a deterrent, just because it's there. Perhaps we may see something more close to the expression of "new information on such or that". All this help in the assessment of the current activity, risk or treat level as well as discriminalization of a potential target. There is a lot good regarless of the whole thing make you feel that is a pain in the ass. Perhaps once we reach the balance necesary in safety and confort, things will be seen different. but until then this is a solution as crude as it is, and works.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Xodia
                        I like to call that face George made the, "Oh Shit, They aren't buying it like I thought they would" face.
                        I believe the though process is something like...

                        "Are they supposed to be clapping now? Why are they clapping now? Why are those guys the only ones clapping? HEY! They're not supposed to be doin' that! Why them rascals..."
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                        • #13
                          Did anyone else see John Kerry go on and on after the address on ABC?
                          The dude abides.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by bascule
                            The other notable amendment, which would allow "naturalized" foreign-born citizens to run for president I somewhat agree with, but there are more pressing changes that need to be made to the Constitution:
                            Stallone: "Hold it! The Schwarzenegger Library?"
                            Bullock: "Yes, the Schwarzenegger Presidential Library. Wasn't he an actor?"
                            Stallone: "Stop! He was President?"
                            Bullock: "Yes. Even though he was not born in this country, his popularity at the time caused the 61st Amendment…"

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                            • #15
                              Ok folks here it goes conspiracy time....


                              Originally posted by bascule
                              The other notable amendment, which would allow "naturalized" foreign-born citizens to run for president I somewhat agree with,

                              The year is 1993 and the movie Demolition Man hits theatre's.

                              Anyone remember the scene where Sandra Bullock and Sylvester Stallone are riding in the car, she tells him that Arnold Swarzinager(sp) is president and that his popularity at the time caused for an amendment that allowed naturalized forign-born citizens to run for president.

                              Seeing how Arnold is already getting his foot in the door for politics....

                              Anyone follow??? It's a fore telling prophacey I swear.
                              Vegas...It's like Falluja but without a last call!

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