internet through payphone??

[Webster]

I know that in London they have internet booths set up like payphone booths where you pay for x amount of minutes of use, I don't know if there is anything like that set up here in the states.

The way you pose your question though sounds like you would like to do something of a questionable nature, so I'll end it there.

Speaking of which is becoming fairly popular in mid-michigan. Lots of advertisements for a payphone/bb internet/web cam, all in one.

[skroo]

Speaking of which is becoming fairly popular in mid-michigan. Lots of advertisements for a payphone/bb internet/web cam, all in one.

I wonder how long the webcam component is going to last before people flash it. Hell, this is why Bally/Midway yanked the camera from the game Journey before it went into production over two decades ago.

[bascule]

I know that in London they have internet booths set up like payphone booths where you pay for x amount of minutes of use

In Japan they have payphones with an ISDN jack you can attach any number of devices to. Of course, thanks to cell phones no one in Japan seems to use payphones at all...

[Floydr47]

Really, one quarter of one cent per minute? That's one cent for four minutes. Either it's a great deal or you just don't understand the concept of decimal places.

I humbly beg your pardon. To err is human....

[Webster]

In Japan they have payphones with an ISDN jack you can attach any number of devices to. Of course, thanks to cell phones no one in Japan seems to use payphones at all...

I do believe the Internet Kiosk has equipped with it an ISDN jack.

Similar to this: http://www.payphones.bt.com/2001/multimedia/menu.html

[fris]

here in canada, we have that also called the netvenue system, little bell kiosks

http://kali.fris.net/texts/netvenue.txt

[mrsneak]

After at least a year of reading these forums I can add something that may be of interest. (could be wrong though!)

In the Uk Internet ready phone booths are now pretty wide spread, for example I am in Edinburgh and there are at least 10.

I beleive that they are all Broadband enabled at around 512Kbps
, BT use these as a sales tool to enourage sign ups to Braodband and home and work.

Our building recently had to evacuated for the afternoon and as we have some very important clients we had to resort to setting up camp in a booth to supply some information for a particulary important client.

[Greenflame]

UHHHH i dont know if im worthy to reply to this but since im hear i have experience in the topic at hand!, all the proccesing and
configuration is done inside the payphone!. so if you use the line
without doing it thru the payphone you can use it free to do whatever it's the same as useing somones phone from the outside of there house via the grey box on the side of there house!.i know for a faq it's possible for a faq!, to acces the internet via a standard ma bell payphone(in the year 2004)
all ya gotta do is look for the terminal box it's the same as the one you got on the side of your $200,000 home lol,and pop it open like you would one of those boxes you keep your stash in
and look for a red and a green wire then splice a phone cord and plug the non-spliced end into your pc/laptop and use test leads or electric tape to connect the two thin spliced phone cord wires
to the terminal wires!. and dial a dial up number then wait for that nasty noice that should be disabled before doing this!.

NOTE:now days thank to the old timers the SSFS(switch station frequencies scanner) scannes all local area's payphone terminals
and the transponder that is apart of a circuit inside the phone sends back a puulse modulation code and if it isnt detected
the phone is killed and a repair man shows up a hour later!.this
can be bypassed be old methods of phreak boxing but it has to be a digital box not analog like blue box and acoustic couplers are extremely slow,and to use the phone for free with ease use a linemans handset ill scann my copy of the 2003 ma bell linemans field manuel one of these days!.

sorry for bad sentence structure if im in for a flaming i understand!.

[Etherlite]

I wish I had a field manuel, Then I would have somebody to help me test cables...

[noid]

UHHHH i dont know if im worthy to reply to this but since im hear i have experience in the topic at hand!, all the proccesing and
configuration is done inside the payphone!. so if you use the line
without doing it thru the payphone you can use it free to do whatever it's the same as useing somones phone from the outside of there house via the grey box on the side of there house!.i know for a faq it's possible for a faq!, to acces the internet via a standard ma bell payphone(in the year 2004)
all ya gotta do is look for the terminal box it's the same as the one you got on the side of your $200,000 home lol,and pop it open like you would one of those boxes you keep your stash in
and look for a red and a green wire then splice a phone cord and plug the non-spliced end into your pc/laptop and use test leads or electric tape to connect the two thin spliced phone cord wires
to the terminal wires!. and dial a dial up number then wait for that nasty noice that should be disabled before doing this!.

Seeing as payphones have their own class of service at a switch level and the phone unit itself has nothing to do with it other than collecting money, I'm going to say that you are completely full of shit.

[astcell]

I can see it now, cutting into Ma Bell property on a public street. You better pray that Homeland Security busts you before the phone police do undescribable things to your corpse.

[skroo]

Seeing as payphones have their own class of service at a switch level and the phone unit itself has nothing to do with it other than collecting money, I'm going to say that you are completely full of shit.

Dammit, he got banned before I could offer him a green box for the low, low price of only $100. Make your money back in a weekend!

[Strom Carlson]

Some modern payphones (the Nortel Millennium, for example) come with the option for a data jack so that you can plug your laptop in. Here in Las Vegas, Millenniums are all that the local telephone company (Centel Nevada DBA Sprint) uses, although examples with data jacks are somewhat rare (and since Sprint stopped paying commission on coin phones, privately owned and operated payphones are all too common in this city).

Acoustic couplers will work, although the quality of the payphone's telephone line is rarely an issue. Usually the problem exists with the handset itself, as some payphone handsets have very poor transmission qualities. Payphones with carbon microphones do exist, but they're fairly rare.

There are two classes of service for coin phones in north america - dumb payphones with central office provided coin control signaling (i.e. your typical Western Electric single-slot 1C or 1D type phone) and smart payphones where the coin control is handled by a computer inside the phone (pretty much anything not owned by the telephone company, although telcos use these too - see the Nortel Millennium). The CO controlled payphones are the ones where you must deposit the money before dialing for local calls, since local calls go through upon the completion of a ground test to determine that the minimum rate has been deposited, and where for toll calls, the phone sends tones down the line to whichever TOPS / OSPS tandem is handling coin functions for that call. With smart phones, the line behaves almost exactly as a regular residential or business line, although typically the telephone company will offer line supervision (polarity reversal when the called party goes off hook) so that the payphone knows whether to collect or return the coins. Although the coin line status will be visible to operators, the local telephone company, interexchange carriers, etc, the CO assumes that the payphone is handling coin calls correctly and will put any call through that comes in on the line. This is why, for example, when a Nortel Millennium loses power, a line-powered restrictor cuts in and does not allow you to dial anything besides 911 and 800/888/877/866 numbers.

So, um, getting back to the original point of this post: Yes, it is usually possible to use dialup on a payphone.

[skroo]

For anyone who may be wondering what a 'classic' acoustic coupler looks like compared to the modern one (better specs in that link) I posted earlier, I ran across this picture of an Atari 830 modem.

I used to have one of these, and remember having to completely demolish the handset of a Telecom Eireann-issue phone in order to make the earpiece speaker and mouthpiece mic fit in the coupler sleeves, which were designed for a standard US Nortel handset.

[Qu|rk]

NOTE:now days thank to the old timers the SSFS(switch station frequencies scanner) scannes all local area's payphone terminals
and the transponder that is apart of a circuit inside the phone sends back a puulse modulation code and if it isnt detected
the phone is killed and a repair man shows up a hour later!.this
can be bypassed be old methods of phreak boxing but it has to be a digital box not analog like blue box and acoustic couplers are extremely slow,and to use the phone for free with ease use a linemans handset ill scann my copy of the 2003 ma bell linemans field manuel one of these days!.

#1) It's not an hour later, any disruption of the payphone circuit on ESS7 will cause a critical CO alarm, in Michigan anyway, and police get dispatched immediately.(unless it was due to card malfunction/power issue at the frame)

#2) "old methods of phreaking" do not work at all, due to the pure 2600 traps they've had for many years now... that doesn't include use of 3k pink noise, but that's a whole other discussion that isn't relevant to your post.

all ya gotta do is look for the terminal box it's the same as the one you got on the side of your $200,000 home lol,and pop it open like you would one of those boxes you keep your stash in
and look for a red and a green wire then splice a phone cord and plug the non-spliced end into your pc/laptop and use test leads or electric tape to connect the two thin spliced phone cord wires
to the terminal wires!. and dial a dial up number then wait for that nasty noice that should be disabled before doing this!.

#1) I'm calling bullshit on the fact that you're a lineman, or have ever seen a line technicians manual for 1 big reason... payphones dont get red/green pairs externally(only red/green pairs are inside, and you'd have to dismantle the payphone to see them)... then we have red and green's in residential wiring... incoming lines from a feed will consist of a white-blue/blue-white pair, then we have orange, green, brown, and slate respectively....(which if you were a tech, you'd also know the same blue/orange/green/brown/slate pairs are on the side of the residential NID that you cannot open with regular tools, and requires a special sized security hex(and is also against the law to open))

#2) the boxes like that they have near payphones are high out of reach, usually high on a building, or are a direct feed from the terminal on the pole itself. Tampering with those is a felony, as a sidenote, and no technician in their right mind would condone such an action, especially publically on a forum.

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I wish I had a field manuel, Then I would have somebody to help me test cables...

You dont need a field manual to test cables, do a continunity check, then put the leads across the cables and bounce the needle, adjust it so you can watch the kick(I recommend analog ohmmeter for this), then do the same with tip to ground and ring to ground.(not at the same time) if they kick the same, it's a pretty sure bet that the cable is decent for use. A quick and easy alternative is to get a tone generator, make sure that it alternates frequencies, and put it at one end, clip the ohmmeter up at the other end, and watch the jumping needle, if it's consistant and stable with good connections at both ends, and passes the current required, it's also good to use just the same.

Qu|rk-