BASIC help

[converge]

In order.

Good for your teacher. I like the idea.

The last compiling version of BASIC, iirc is 4.5. There was also BASIC 7.0PDS, but 4.5 is the more easily found version. Ok.. VisualBASIC for DOS .. but that wasn't really worth a rats nuts. Of course, any version of MSDOS will have qbasic.exe (coughedit.comcough), which will interpret to your hearts content. There are several options for modern interpreters, but I believe the most popular is FreeBASIC.

gorillas and nibbles are the reason I program today.

No. VB is not a form of BASIC. VB uses a lot of syntax that is similar to BASIC, and much (most|all?/never tested) BASIC syntax will interpret in VB. But why?

<no comment> /me holds a lighter for TrueBASIC

How does BASIC teach bad programming practices and principles? I think it is a much better starting block than Java. Start em high and then push them low.

<no comment> /me holds a lighter to thecotman .. just because.

PLCs

George Washington and Elvis doing a donkey.

I guess that makes sense in a graphical sense.. pset can be a bitch for detailing, but in many ways BASIC is like using those extra big legos with premade shapes because you were too young to imagine.

Extra Credit ?:/ pffff...

,mmmm bananas potent enough to make Osama proud and sleek enough to morph though 5 stories :o

.... .... yeah .. you guys are pretty old. It was new to me when I got my first 386sx.

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YES! That is one game that could definately use a modern makeover.. I have ideas ... mmm .. good ideas. I might have to play :) I sense a new defcon video. .. nope ... that was just my butt itching.

[highwizard]

In order.


<no comment> /me holds a lighter for TrueBASIC

How does BASIC teach bad programming practices and principles? I think it is a much better starting block than Java. Start em high and then push them low.

<no comment> /me holds a lighter to thecotman .. just because.

Java is teh suck too..

[Windblows User]

I agree with the BASIC and legos analogy. It does seem like that when first start looking at it... Its like HTML in that sense, yah know?


And I believe in starting a programmer in BASIC, or assem., or VB, or even C, before Java because its my belief that if you dont know where the current C++ syntax comes from, or the current XHTML/CSS/XML/etc. DTDs come from, you wont really know that much about the language.

Its kind of like the purpose of history class. Know where you come from so you can avoid previously made mistakes. Know where you come from and you will undoubtedly have a better understanding of where you are now and know the best course of progression.

But thats my deep thoughts for today. I gotta go to school, its starting in a few minutes :/

[Thorn]

I take it Agent Orange and I are the only two who remember when the game was new ?

I'm in that club, too. Hell, 30+ years ago I was programming in BASIC on a Xerox mainframe.



! RUN SUPERTANK
*SYNTAX ERROX LINE 12430*
!

<"Damn." Trudge off to the card punch room to find the typo on the punchcard for line 12430. To classmate: "The admins (read: High Priesthood of the Big Iron) say that someday they'll let us store out programs on 9-track tapes. And then maybe we can edit right on a glass terminal! That will be so groovy, man.">

[LosT]

Basic *can* be a useful skill- MANY microcontroller companies have tried to soften the blow of assembly by releasing 'forms of basic' and software to get that to run on their chips....Parallax for example has PBasic. And they aren't the only one's doing that. Granted its meant as a crutch to get you eventually to assembly (Ubisofts SX chips for example)- but it *does* allow you to start writing code for a controller VERY QUICKLY.

LosT

[Windblows User]

<?xml utf="8" ?>
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My "Many Men Theory of Programming and Google Syntax" is as follows:


Syntax is in there to make it sound all cool, but serves no other real purpose. The rest of it is valid and is stated as follows: There are many men out there on the internet that program and write programs. Thousands of them turning out hundreds of programs a day and 99% are connected to Google in some form. If I need a program, I google for it. If I cant find it, I dont need it that bad -- I can compensate. Write my own? That takes time and effort, things I lack.

</joke>