Zotob worm

[Floydr47]

The problem is that its not even always from a poor Nigerian man. My grandma is constantly tricked with the worms that use the send address of other people in her address book. Really the only thing that is going to fix problems like that is a widespread security awareness. Without knowing what the topic and body of something like that looks like it would be pretty simple to trick most people.

The problem worsens because there will never be a widespread way to spread information that would help people to realize how certain e-mails are formatted. That makes a group of people who will be a constant target for worm authors, but there is just no way to fix it.

The real problem is that no matter how many people you educate there is a constant supply of those in need of education...it's a vicious circle.

[Grond]

Not doing anything wrong, I just hold the belief that 2000 is more stable, and is most definitly quicker. This is proven every time you look at the requirements for a game.

Here is an example: Battlefield 1942 requires 128MB of ram on 95, 98, 98SE and 2000. It requires 256 on XP.

Windows 2000 and XP Pro are essentially the same kernel. The main differences are that XP (stock) contains security fixes, extra services, a simpler GUI, and some changes in the logon/security subsystem (allowing things like Fast User Switching, etc.). I turn all of the GUI features and extra services off, and I find that XP is more stable than Windows 2000, particularly when using the "Classic" Windows 2000 interface. Turn off all those stupid graphics "effects" and you get a pretty slick system (for a MS box at least). As far as the shell is concerned, just install Cygwin.

The reason games have higher requirements on XP is because XP itself has higher resource requirements, leaving less available memory and CPU for applications. But you can tweak this by disabling services (like the uPNP service, SSDP, themes)

-g

[Voltage Spike]

The real problem is that no matter how many people you educate there is a constant supply of those in need of education...it's a vicious circle.

It has been a long time since I took geometry, but I don't understand how that is a circle. I could come up with some complex cases which would result in a circle, but I'm pretty sure education has more of a snowballing effect.

[Floydr47]

It has been a long time since I took geometry, but I don't understand how that is a circle. I could come up with some complex cases which would result in a circle, but I'm pretty sure education has more of a snowballing effect.

I meant quite simply that every day you have more and more people (newbies) coming onto the internet and they are just repeating the same mistakes that have been made before. No matter how many people you teach there is an endless supply of those left to be taught. Perfect example: The rules of this forum are posted, it doesn't require genius to understand the rules, they aren't written in ten sylable words, yet people still come into the forum asking to have websites hacked or to be taught how to hack or to have e-mail accounts hacked or whatever. Evidentally these types of asshats have never been hit by the snowball effect...

[alienSkull]

I meant quite simply that every day you have more and more people (newbies) coming onto the internet and they are just repeating the same mistakes that have been made before. No matter how many people you teach there is an endless supply of those left to be taught.
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Also when asshats learn more, they can become more of a problem than anything else. With the wrong intentions, someone could cause the very problems that the education was intended to protect them from.

I would also like to take the time to thank everyone that made this thread an interesting and educational one.

[maddhatter]

"Just when you think you have the idiots pegged....God created a better idiot."
(I heard that somewhere too)

Anyway. To me, is seems like the virus writers are kind of dumb. Here's my reasoning:

OSX is a Linux-based OS. Linux is a Unix-based OS. Windows is written in C, I believe.

If a person wanted to put out a virus that would actually do something instead of these nerdy ones, they should take that into consideration. Make one that will run on all three. Yes, it would take time but hell, at least it would be a work of art instead of stealing the same bogus code time after time. Besides...you are going to jail anyway if you make it....so why not do your best?

>OSX is a Linux-based OS. Linux is a Unix-based OS. Windows is written in C, I believe.

OSX is UNIX based
Windows, i feel is based on UNIX - lookup Xenix (microsoft unix based on system v)

[Ridirich]

>OSX is a Linux-based OS. Linux is a Unix-based OS. Windows is written in C, I believe.

OSX is UNIX based
Windows, i feel is based on UNIX - lookup Xenix (microsoft unix based on system v)

You are argueing with me, but saying relatively the same thing, and thus have said nothing. Nice first post man. Go back to lurking.

[alienSkull]

OSX is a Linux-based OS. Linux is a Unix-based OS.

OSX is UNIX based

maddhatter, it looks like you need to go back to intermediate algebra...
you make an argument that is simply shown using the Transitive Property of Equality....

Let
a = OSX
b = Linux based
c = Unix based

If a = b and b = c, then a = c.

Thanks for playing!

[TheCotMan]

You two do realize that this issue was
addressed earlier in the thread?

I thought this was resolved. No need to bring it up again.

[maddhatter]

re

>maddhatter, it looks like you need to go back to intermediate algebra...
>you make an argument that is simply shown using the Transitive Property of Equality....

>Let
>a = OSX
>b = Linux based
>c = Unix based

>If a = b and b = c, then a = c.

>Thanks for playing!
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Jim>

I get what u mean Jim, just pointing out that OSX is not based on the TUX.

thanks for the lesson though!

J

[skroo]

Super fun happy *nix geneaological chart

*sigh*

Okay, let's clear this up once and for all in picture menu form:

Unix timeline

And for Windows:

Windows Timeline

[converge]

just to help clarify things for the mathematically challenged, that is:

a = 5/6*c + 20x
b = 5/6*c + 14y
c = c + 36z

and for those that would rather read than click on teh graphicals.. whhazaam

that is all