God Help us All!

[Zero_Silver]

Guys, the Devil Gates has spawned his latest vice against sanity:
Windows XP. God Save us all!


Zero_Silver

[converge]

for what it's worth, I find it the best MS client OS yet... yeah, yeah, m$ is evil... still a better (client) than any linux/x86 I've seen yet well.. the ver. -wpa

[simon]

Um, any reasons?

How about enlightening us on why it is a better OS than others. Personally I think the interface is the best windows interface yet. (I'm a GUI junky *grin*). I love themes and skins, and all that kind of stuff. Of course when it comes to hacking I'll take a terminal any day tho.

simon

[Pyr0]

C0nV3r9,
I am a Network Security Administrator, MCSE2K, and I spend over 8 hours a day using all the releases of the Windows OS's with the exception of XP and 95. I will admit that windows GUI is nice for basic users but let me suggest this setup to you. And please take the time to try it before you knock it.
Latest release of Slackware running KDE2, I think you will be very impressed. My father who is a Windows freak to the bone, just tried my slackware box last night and today he is at home loading it on his machine.
Thanks,
Pyr0

[Chris]

Pyr0--
Slack 8 is great. I agree 100% that KDE2 is an outstanding GUI. I really like the way they upgraded the konsole so that you can have multiple shells in the same konsole window. That upgrade alone was worth the price of admission.

[converge]

o cool! I incited some conversation on a board... I'm not usually too good at doing that. okay, I'll elaborate my thought more, this might taker some space:

I threw that knock at linux because so many anti-m$ people I know haven't even tried XP and think that anyone of the mass can viably run linux on their system (perceivably anything ms being total crap). My experience has been that users struggle, even with the ease of of m$ automation and bloat. Not that linux is difficult, but that the mass cannot handle even the depth of understanding the hardware they have.

With this in mind, and mostly ms products left to ponder barring any consideration to MacOS versions less X, no version of ms coding based on the 9x kernel can really be considered stable. 98se and 98 are relatively safer solutions in comparison to ME, but the NT kernel is really the only solution towards more stable operation. NT workstation 4- is highly limited to the primary, simple functions of corporate groupware in a networked environment, and not well at that. 2000 was a nice step in the direction of merging stability of NT with capabilities and friendliness of the 9x baby that m$ grew on. However, there are still distict limitations in gaming, software, device handling, etc. I have even had crash trouble on many systems with 2k for reasons I can't quite pin. OK, the history behind... my finding on XP:

Although the first beta of XP I tried didn't install at all, build 2462 did me justice until I got ahold of the final. The OS appears to fill in the gaps of 2000 while improving stability. It has taken enormous effort for me to crash the OS (well, except for the RCs.. dunno what was up with them). It also seems to cure some of the more of the annoying little things that the previous OSs produced, while giving more control over single processes. For organizations, it continues along with centralized workstation configuration and management (assuming you use at least one m$ server in conjuction). Possibly 5 years a little late, XP is better than it's MS predecessors, give it a try... Not more powerful than linux by any means, and far less potential; but this is why I find XP more viable than most other OSs in a general statement (minus the crappy product activation they tried to pull).

Personally, slak 7.1 is the distro that I'm running on my laptop. (death to redhat mwhahaha) Although, I've shunned KDE in the past. Is KDE2 new to 8? Maybe it's time to upgrade.

Has anyone here had or seen success with implementing linux in a general environment? I'd really like to hear success stories... I'm getting a little itchy at the m$ concepts of in blackcomb (.net)

[(+)] --take aim I enjoy multiple viewpoints. It helps my limited perspective

[Chris]

Originally posted by c0nv3r9

Personally, slak 7.1 is the distro that I'm running on my laptop. (death to redhat mwhahaha) Although, I've shunned KDE in the past. Is KDE2 new to 8? Maybe it's time to upgrade.

Has anyone here had or seen success with implementing linux in a general environment? I'd really like to hear success stories... I'm getting a little itchy at the m$ concepts of in blackcomb (.net)

[(+)] --take aim I enjoy multiple viewpoints. It helps my limited perspective

KDE2 is new to Slack 8, that alone makes the upgrade worthwhile. Additionally, 8 has the choice of 2.2.19 or 2.4.5 kernel on the install disk. One thing that I have noticed with KDE2 though...I have had problems getting gpm to work correctly. Never had any problems with the old KDE.


As for linux implementations, do you mean on the workstation/desktop level or on the server level?

[converge]

ya... interested in client implementations... I know the wonders servers can do.. hell, what can't they do short of full blown *nix?

[simon]

I'll take Debian

I dont know about Slack. I have only used it a little bit. Like 8 hours or so. It wasn't bad. But I'll take debian with a gnome-session any day. I once heard this and I can't help but think of it now *grin*

"There is only one distribution other than Debian... and thats Slack."

[converge]

sad, I haven't used debian at all... i've heard the same regards from a few friends, but still haven't tried it --= hmm.. where's that spare computer./?

[gimpsta]

debian to the izzo

whoa to c0nv3r9

set up debian on ur dual boot laptop
insteada
or we can set our beta box back up at work and set it up on that
you'll like it.



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watch out for purple hippos

[converge]

haha true true gimp... the hippo's clear for a week at least now, the president has held off the swap until he can meet with management.

yeah, let's set it up on our beta box.. my craptops are on their way out... time for somethin a little better. i'm gonna duel boot again with the new one, just not sure what now...


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beware, code gremlins lurk

[omega884]

OS X

I know i know, you're all thinking "oh no another mac junkie" but hear me out. I love linux to death, just because it's different and powerful. I find it much better than windows (albeit harder to use, and more stable than the classic Mac OS. However, I have recently had the fortune of playing with OS X, and let me tell you, Apple finaly did what RedHat failed to do. Create an easy to use version of linux, that has the capabilities to be the powerful *NIX systems we know and love. Under OS X, you don't have to go near the terminal uif you don't want. But at teh same time, it's right there if you do. The GUI is beautiful and considering how new the OS is (it's not just another *NIX) it's pretty damn stable. O course the downside to all of this, for you PC junkies, is that you need to get a mac to use it. But if money is no object on your next computer purchase, consider a mac and OS X.

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