Ideas for Defcon 15

[mouseling]

Re: Ideas for Defcon 15

Actually, Last year Agent X and i had the idea of making a couple hundred IR throwies and laying out a trail to a party that could only be found through cell phone camera's ccd. I even bought a bunch of IR leds, but we ran out of time.

maybe this year.

-mouse

[converge]

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chemlights:
revenge of the ravers part deux

$500-600 should score, what, a good 1000 or so sticks? noid?

[kriszklink]

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OMG, yes! Definitely. It was so very pretty upstairs, but yeah, hard to find.

WOW, time flys..hope every1 is doing well. um yah i have to agree with Jackalope. This yeer should get a couple hundred flashlights and do the blackout party as well

[converge]

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Also is the new floor plan for this year, and I want to start a discussion on use of space to help questions such as:

I would pitch getting the Contest area, Lockpick Village, and Wireless Village all within the same stumbling area of each other, possibly squared off with the Chill area. All have a vary similar goal/look/feel. Also inserting a pitch for more space to Lockpick Village, as well as dedicated/secured-closable space so that they don't have to tear down for other events then re-assemble to kick things off.

Based on turnout last year, I would recommend combining the Forum Meet and DCG Meet into a single skybox event .. possibly with some signifier for DCG POCs or something. One turned out relatively successful but burned out pretty quick due to parties, the other was considerably smaller .. and burned out quick due to parties. Knowing the size/layout of the skyboxen now, one room for a small portion of a night would suffice (possibly before a party sets up?

oh ya.. one final.. I hear IceTre and Abby need a skybox to store some booze, with accessible times for multiple people to access it while music is playing. ;)

Black White Balls could definitely be more central .. of course, by the time I started wandering to find Miss Jackalope's performance I was 1) too late 2) recommended that the general direction was not a good one to head in due to the 'RedBull Fiasco of 06'. Ideally I would picture these set up and running in the areas underneath the skyboxen, ie move CTF and adjoining room and set up there?.. or similar idea. Well.. maybe not.. latter consideration for skyboxen party pollution depending on what ran concurrently.. something to toy with maybe.

[Abby_Normal]

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When are they going to start assigning skyboxes and other space for parties? The Riv doesn't seem too keen on room parties, and the noise was a problem for everyone. I will miss the view though.

[DJ Jackalope]

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-- Should we not do the B&W Ball upstairs, move it to the convetion area so we don't get noise complaints, and people can find it easier?

OMG, yes! Definitely. It was so very pretty upstairs, but yeah, hard to find.

[Nikita]

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hmmm.. there must be a way to control their circuit from outside? or maybe a friendly room rush? :p Actually .. weren't Defcon folk supposed to be stacked in our own segment for the most part this year?

This may be true, I have heard nothing concrete yet. However I haven't asked either. You would always need to take into consideration worse case and minimum participation required to pull it off.

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Originally Posted by Nikita
( And, What about light pollution )

Interesting to note. This could require inversed displays .. draw the image by darkening a set of rooms and using light as the whitespace. This could actually work well for Defcon logos, skulls, or whatnot.. Other attendees could add a third texture by flickering their lights .. or to insane granularity by purchasing appropriately colored party lights ...


The biggest hurdle in such an idea would likely be physical space. Size of room/window in relation to actual width/height of the tower or hotel segment (pixel space). Greater resolution could be covered in lesser space by dividing each window into 4 segments using a thick enough band of opposing color .. bed sheets? .. but this adds much more time/complexity to pull it off as a trade off.

Thank you for understanding the point. I've obviously BEEN to Vegas (responding to other comment ) and can imagine a few problems relating to lights, whereas in any other place it would make more of a visible difference. I like the idea of party lights, however I have hesitancy those would would be bright enough either. Good luck, I'm in DC at the moment but when I get back and settled down, I'll try to contribute some decent ideas.

[Dark Tangent]

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DT,when are you putting up the main DC15 page with vendors, events, etc

I am behind on this. I'm getting the CFP ready for early next week to announce it.

Also is the new floor plan for this year, and I want to start a discussion on use of space to help questions such as:

-- Should we not do the B&W Ball upstairs, move it to the convetion area so we don't get noise complaints, and people can find it easier?

[BonzoESC]

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( And, What about light pollution )

Bahahahaha, have you even been to vegas? :v

[renderman]

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heh, i was actually thinking more of the 1961 Rosebowl Half-Time Hack where students from Cal Tech got the low down on some crowd-interaction stunt that the cheerleaders and band did, then urban-explored and/or lockpicked their way into the rooms where audience-participation instruction cards were held, stole one, made a bunch of duplicates and re-engineered the sequences (in what could be said to be a type of rudimentary programming), then snuck the modded cards back into the cheerleaders' belongings.

on the day of the game, various half-time signs (massive ones made by crowd members holding up colored squares of cardboard) showed incorrect things (like the CalTech Beaver mascot as opposed to a Washington Husky) and eventually the prankster school's name...

read the whole article, it's a terrific story if you don't already know it.

Freaking awesome hack. A classic

A more fiesable display might involve attendee's putting a sign in thier window or perhaps something to the balconies of the skyboxes?

[Deviant Ollam]

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heh.. the brown note of the lighting hack. nice.

heh, i was actually thinking more of the 1961 Rosebowl Half-Time Hack where students from Cal Tech got the low down on some crowd-interaction stunt that the cheerleaders and band did, then urban-explored and/or lockpicked their way into the rooms where audience-participation instruction cards were held, stole one, made a bunch of duplicates and re-engineered the sequences (in what could be said to be a type of rudimentary programming), then snuck the modded cards back into the cheerleaders' belongings.

on the day of the game, various half-time signs (massive ones made by crowd members holding up colored squares of cardboard) showed incorrect things (like the CalTech Beaver mascot as opposed to a Washington Husky) and eventually the prankster school's name...

read the whole article, it's a terrific story if you don't already know it.

[converge]

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heh.. the brown note of the lighting hack. nice.

[Deviant Ollam]

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now the really funny prank would be to hack the hack... find the organizational cards that will tell all participants which lights to turn on and off, then mod the cards without anyone ever knowing.

instead of the defcon logo the hotel could light up with something like "crash and burn" and make the whole thing look uber-lame.

(bonus points to anyone who knows what famous hack inspired this post)

[converge]

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You can't get non defcon residents to comply with your idea.

hmmm.. there must be a way to control their circuit from outside? or maybe a friendly room rush? :p Actually .. weren't Defcon folk supposed to be stacked in our own segment for the most part this year?

( And, What about light pollution )

Interesting to note. This could require inversed displays .. draw the image by darkening a set of rooms and using light as the whitespace. This could actually work well for Defcon logos, skulls, or whatnot.. Other attendees could add a third texture by flickering their lights .. or to insane granularity by purchasing appropriately colored party lights ...


The biggest hurdle in such an idea would likely be physical space. Size of room/window in relation to actual width/height of the tower or hotel segment (pixel space). Greater resolution could be covered in lesser space by dividing each window into 4 segments using a thick enough band of opposing color .. bed sheets? .. but this adds much more time/complexity to pull it off as a trade off.

[Abby_Normal]

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Adam & Abby, please tell my you guys have the penthouse booked already xD

Afraid not, the Riv has decided not to rent it to us (or anyone). We are looking at other options, fear not, there will be a party!

Just look for pumpkin man!