Ideas for Defcon 15
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"It is difficult not to wonder whether that combination of elements which produces a machine for labor does not create also a soul of sorts, a dull resentful metallic will, which can rebel at times". Pearl S. BuckComment
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Re: Ideas for Defcon 15
Awesome, ThanksYeah, this complaint has been heard for sure. We are doing our best to get more social environments created. I was told that the def con block was mostly all in one tower, but I could never get a for real answer.
I'll be in Vegas in June to sit down with management and see what can be worked out!Comment
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For the outdoor area we re getting a bunch of kiddie pools and chairs. Bring your rubber duckies!PGP Key: https://defcon.org/html/links/dtangent.htmlComment
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hell ya.. I'm semi disappointed that this hasn't already been trumped by the community yet. Maybe it just took a little breaking in at the new venue?
.. has anyone seen those infomercials for the $700 portable hot tub systems?
...if it gets me nowhere, I'll go there proud; and I'm gonna go there free.Comment
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well, at least with rubber ducks we wont get banned from the riv for coloring the pool waterComment
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This is like..... reallyreallyreallyreally last minute, but does anyone wanna take a week to throw together a Public Terminal Cluster like at hope? I volunteer to set up the terminal servers in bsd or linux and network the crap with network boot/remote X. Someone just needs to provide a pallet of monitors and $20 Pentium-1 computers with VGA, floppy and ethernet (though ether cards are cheap if you can find a bargain bin)
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note that you only need like 8 of these terminals and a stable internet connection for it to be a success. if the wireless stays up most of the time a decent 802.11b or g card like a 200mW orinoco, i'd bet 8 machines would be in use most of the con, mostly for the fearless to use mail, ssh, blog and the likeLast edited by psypete; July 20, 2007, 07:46.Comment
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fearless is right. i've always sort of just scratched my head at those sort of setups, since i could never imagine who would be silly enough to use them. maybe if you had a bunch of machines without hard drives that would only run live distros from disc or thumb drives that would be one thing... but the HOPE-style terminal clusters i've always just assumed were some sort of giant social engineering trick that attempts to harvest names and passwords from users who are stupid enough to create a temp account using the same credential pair that they use elsewhere in life.
at defcon i think that it's best to do all we can to encourage people to un-plug. if someone desperately needs to blog or check mail, let them do it in their room or on a shitty web-enabled handheld device... something that is quick, dirty, and not conducive to long-term time pecking at a keyboard whilst one misses out on the talks, events, parties, orgies, and other whatnot that only comes once a year for many folks."I'll admit I had an OiNK account and frequented it quite often… What made OiNK a great place was that it was like the world's greatest record store… iTunes kind of feels like Sam Goody to me. I don't feel cool when I go there. I'm tired of seeing John Mayer's face pop up. I feel like I'm being hustled when I visit there, and I don't think their product is that great. DRM, low bit rate, etc... OiNK it existed because it filled a void of what people want."
- Trent ReznorComment
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It is really late, and deviant's comments aside, you're going to have to do an awful lot of coordination pretty damned quick just to get the physical space and connection/bandwidth. My suggestion would be to do a poll at this year's DC to see if people perceive a need for it (although I have my doubts) and then proceed with setting it up next year if it's warranted.This is like..... reallyreallyreallyreally last minute, but does anyone wanna take a week to throw together a Public Terminal Cluster like at hope? I volunteer to set up the terminal servers in bsd or linux and network the crap with network boot/remote X. Someone just needs to provide a pallet of monitors and $20 Pentium-1 computers with VGA, floppy and ethernet (though ether cards are cheap if you can find a bargain bin)
Agreed. My impression of those machines at HOPE was that I wouldn't trust using them any further that I could throw one.... i've always sort of just scratched my head at those sort of setups, since i could never imagine who would be silly enough to use them. ... but the HOPE-style terminal clusters i've always just assumed were some sort of giant social engineering trick that attempts to harvest names and passwords from users who are stupid enough to create a temp account using the same credential pair that they use elsewhere in life. ...Thorn
"If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning." - Catherine AirdComment
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Where did I put those in-line USB and PS/2 keyloggers?....
Of course, I am not sure how useful it would be, if much of the typing includes people's own rendering of ASCII-Art Goatse images and "I am teh 31337 hax0rz! ph33rm3!"Comment
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I wonder how much of the 100,000 square feet casino gaming area we could cover in a ten minute time period?
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