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  • theprez98
    SpoonfeederExtraordinaire
    • Jan 2005
    • 1507

    #121
    Re: Ideas for Defcon 15

    Originally posted by astcell
    DT, tell them if we cannot hang out by the pool we will have no choice but to hang out in the casino. I'm sure that will help a lot.
    Right by the high stakes rooms...
    "\x74\x68\x65\x70\x72\x65\x7a\x39\x38";

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    • lil_freak
      Innocent and Cute
      • Jul 2003
      • 808

      #122
      Re: Ideas for Defcon 15

      Originally posted by astcell
      DT, tell them if we cannot hang out by the pool we will have no choice but to hang out in the casino. I'm sure that will help a lot.
      I wonder how much of the 100,000 square feet casino gaming area we could cover in a ten minute time period?
      "It is difficult not to wonder whether that combination of elements which produces a machine for labor does not create also a soul of sorts, a dull resentful metallic will, which can rebel at times". Pearl S. Buck

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      • DaKahuna
        Dirty Ol' Man
        • Apr 2006
        • 664

        #123
        Re: Ideas for Defcon 15

        Originally posted by theprez98
        Right by the high stakes rooms...
        With Renderman like, body mounted war driving rigs.
        DaKahuna
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        • executioner
          Member
          • Mar 2007
          • 2

          #124
          Re: Ideas for Defcon 15

          Originally posted by Dark Tangent
          Yeah, this complaint has been heard for sure. We are doing our best to get more social environments created. I was told that the def con block was mostly all in one tower, but I could never get a for real answer.

          I'll be in Vegas in June to sit down with management and see what can be worked out!
          Awesome, Thanks

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          • astcell
            Human Rights Issuer
            • Oct 2001
            • 7512

            #125
            Re: Ideas for Defcon 15

            Originally posted by lil_freak
            I wonder how much of the 100,000 square feet casino gaming area we could cover in a ten minute time period?
            That sounds like a contest! Will your GPS work indoors?

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            • Dark Tangent
              The Dark Tangent
              • Sep 2001
              • 2732

              #126
              Re: Ideas for Defcon 15

              For the outdoor area we re getting a bunch of kiddie pools and chairs. Bring your rubber duckies!
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              • renderman
                Notorious Canadian Hacker
                • Mar 2003
                • 1428

                #127
                Re: Ideas for Defcon 15

                Originally posted by Dark Tangent
                For the outdoor area we re getting a bunch of kiddie pools and chairs. Bring your rubber duckies!
                Ok, that is so just begging for a hack....

                /me googles "10,000 rubber ducks drop ship"
                Never drink anything larger than your head!





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                • converge
                  No Values Voter
                  • Oct 2001
                  • 3322

                  #128
                  Re: Ideas for Defcon 15

                  hell ya.. I'm semi disappointed that this hasn't already been trumped by the community yet. Maybe it just took a little breaking in at the new venue?

                  .. has anyone seen those infomercials for the $700 portable hot tub systems?

                  ...
                  if it gets me nowhere, I'll go there proud; and I'm gonna go there free.

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                  • digital_dreamer
                    Member
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 34

                    #129
                    Re: Ideas for Defcon 15

                    well, at least with rubber ducks we wont get banned from the riv for coloring the pool water

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                    • astcell
                      Human Rights Issuer
                      • Oct 2001
                      • 7512

                      #130
                      Re: Ideas for Defcon 15

                      When you say Rubber Duckies I think or short antennas for a Motorola.

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                      • psypete
                        whistle tip
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 15

                        #131
                        Re: Ideas for Defcon 15

                        This is like..... reallyreallyreallyreally last minute, but does anyone wanna take a week to throw together a Public Terminal Cluster like at hope? I volunteer to set up the terminal servers in bsd or linux and network the crap with network boot/remote X. Someone just needs to provide a pallet of monitors and $20 Pentium-1 computers with VGA, floppy and ethernet (though ether cards are cheap if you can find a bargain bin)

                        --

                        note that you only need like 8 of these terminals and a stable internet connection for it to be a success. if the wireless stays up most of the time a decent 802.11b or g card like a 200mW orinoco, i'd bet 8 machines would be in use most of the con, mostly for the fearless to use mail, ssh, blog and the like
                        Last edited by psypete; July 20, 2007, 07:46.

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                        • Deviant Ollam
                          Semi-Professional Swearer
                          • May 2003
                          • 3417

                          #132
                          Re: Ideas for Defcon 15

                          Originally posted by psypete
                          mostly for the fearless to use mail, ssh, blog and the like
                          fearless is right. i've always sort of just scratched my head at those sort of setups, since i could never imagine who would be silly enough to use them. maybe if you had a bunch of machines without hard drives that would only run live distros from disc or thumb drives that would be one thing... but the HOPE-style terminal clusters i've always just assumed were some sort of giant social engineering trick that attempts to harvest names and passwords from users who are stupid enough to create a temp account using the same credential pair that they use elsewhere in life.

                          at defcon i think that it's best to do all we can to encourage people to un-plug. if someone desperately needs to blog or check mail, let them do it in their room or on a shitty web-enabled handheld device... something that is quick, dirty, and not conducive to long-term time pecking at a keyboard whilst one misses out on the talks, events, parties, orgies, and other whatnot that only comes once a year for many folks.
                          "I'll admit I had an OiNK account and frequented it quite often… What made OiNK a great place was that it was like the world's greatest record store… iTunes kind of feels like Sam Goody to me. I don't feel cool when I go there. I'm tired of seeing John Mayer's face pop up. I feel like I'm being hustled when I visit there, and I don't think their product is that great. DRM, low bit rate, etc... OiNK it existed because it filled a void of what people want."
                          - Trent Reznor

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                          • Thorn
                            Easy Bake Oven Iron Chef
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 1819

                            #133
                            Re: Ideas for Defcon 15

                            Originally posted by psypete
                            This is like..... reallyreallyreallyreally last minute, but does anyone wanna take a week to throw together a Public Terminal Cluster like at hope? I volunteer to set up the terminal servers in bsd or linux and network the crap with network boot/remote X. Someone just needs to provide a pallet of monitors and $20 Pentium-1 computers with VGA, floppy and ethernet (though ether cards are cheap if you can find a bargain bin)
                            It is really late, and deviant's comments aside, you're going to have to do an awful lot of coordination pretty damned quick just to get the physical space and connection/bandwidth. My suggestion would be to do a poll at this year's DC to see if people perceive a need for it (although I have my doubts) and then proceed with setting it up next year if it's warranted.

                            Originally posted by Deviant Ollam
                            ... i've always sort of just scratched my head at those sort of setups, since i could never imagine who would be silly enough to use them. ... but the HOPE-style terminal clusters i've always just assumed were some sort of giant social engineering trick that attempts to harvest names and passwords from users who are stupid enough to create a temp account using the same credential pair that they use elsewhere in life. ...
                            Agreed. My impression of those machines at HOPE was that I wouldn't trust using them any further that I could throw one.
                            Last edited by Thorn; July 20, 2007, 11:09. Reason: Typo fix
                            Thorn
                            "If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning." - Catherine Aird

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                            • TheCotMan
                              *****Retired *****
                              • May 2004
                              • 8857

                              #134
                              Re: Ideas for Defcon 15

                              Where did I put those in-line USB and PS/2 keyloggers?....

                              Of course, I am not sure how useful it would be, if much of the typing includes people's own rendering of ASCII-Art Goatse images and "I am teh 31337 hax0rz! ph33rm3!"

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                              • Dark Tangent
                                The Dark Tangent
                                • Sep 2001
                                • 2732

                                #135
                                Re: Ideas for Defcon 15

                                Originally posted by Thorn
                                It is Agreed. My impression of those machines at HOPE was that I wouldn't trust using them any further that I could throw one.
                                How about "I wouldn't trust that overgrown hunk of silicone diode any farther than I could throw it!"
                                PGP Key: https://defcon.org/html/links/dtangent.html

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