Banned from the Riv?

[noid]

Re: Banned from the Riv?

Especially when its at a hotel where security can just enter the room anyways.

You: Cant come in unless you know the secret codeword
Hotel Security: Is it 'Fuck You'?. Step aside, sport.

You'd probably be better off restricting boozing to those 21+ and filter out the shitheads by making it something similar to the Network Ninja party (need to know someone 'in the know' to get an invite).

[theprez98]

Re: Banned from the Riv?

We need to find a place to setup a party which is away from security, accessable by most everyone, but restricted to those how know or can answer a simple question..(what is 1 + 1?) =3 something any computer nerd could figure out in a sec.

Also need alternatives if they get busted and ways to protect those at the party.

Why not just have a legal party and avoid the shenanigans involved with secret locations, secret pass phrases and protecting underage drinkers.

[Dallas]

Re: Banned from the Riv?

One cannot be banned from the riveria unless they can activley figure out who you are. Most "bans" are for the casino, other wise it is like the other hotel bans which are enforced by a $ 7.00 per hour security guard who has been dealt with.

All but 2 of the security folks are gone from last year, and only one is an issue. I think based on last years performance, many have ideas how to keep him busy. Dont know how is other "guards" will react.

The other issue is however, dealing with undercover PD. They were fairly easy to see - Shoes and age gave most away. But were quick to show up.

We need to find a place to setup a party which is away from security, accessable by most everyone, but restricted to those how know or can answer a simple question..(what is 1 + 1?) =3 something any computer nerd could figure out in a sec.

Also need alternatives if they get busted and ways to protect those at the party.

Also, I would like to suggest a beverage tasting and shot contest. Also I need someone to bring me some moonshine for my beverage this year, as I dont have access to any now.

- Dallas

[astcell]

Re: Banned from the Riv?

Lite Brite! Scavenger Hunt item!

[blauman]

Re: Banned from the Riv?

Security guards are briefed that if Red Bull cans are thrown out windows, the terrorists have won.

Remember back when something had to HAPPEN before someone got into trouble? Or am I that old?

We are getting old... remember when signing off Defcon with one hand :)

[Abby_Normal]

Re: Banned from the Riv?

Security guards are briefed that if Red Bull cans are thrown out windows, the terrorists have won.

Remember back when something had to HAPPEN before someone got into trouble? Or am I that old?

Nobody bring a Lite Brite and we should be ok!!

I felt like we were all getting the blame for the actions of a few. Most of the parties didn't break any rules or do anything wrong.

I think this is only going to get worse. Aside from the poor treatment we got last time, the Riv seems to have no interest in working with us to make next year better. I know we'd be glad to send people from our crew out to work with them in advance to avoid the problems of last year, and find ways to do what we do that would still be acceptable (and profitable) to the Riv.

[astcell]

Re: Banned from the Riv?

Security guards are briefed that if Red Bull cans are thrown out windows, the terrorists have won.

Remember back when something had to HAPPEN before someone got into trouble? Or am I that old?

[Xodia]

Re: Banned from the Riv?

one person got too drunk and acted like an asstard. part of this entailed throwing a canned beverage out of a window. fortunately no one was hurt, but someone could have been. it wound up being a huge security incident, with both that person as well as others who were merely in the vicinity being kicked out of the hotel and, therefore, out of defcon.

Yeah...That sucked.

As for the bans, the Riv seemed pretty serious about the Red Bull bans. The asshat that threw the can was banned and photographed along with everyone else in the room. I am not sure how serious all the bans were taken though. Given its Casino security, I imagine they will remember if someone were to make a reservation. I don't see how it could be enforced properly if the people in question weren't gambling, staying at the hotel, or doing anything too awfully suspicious.

I know this much, I'm just glad I work for a place that is considering sending me to Blackhat. ;)

[Deviant Ollam]

Re: Banned from the Riv?

Casinos have a very very long memory and bans are almost never forgotten. They keep a ban book and the surveillance guys pride themselves on catching bans who try to come back on property.

but do you think that's for all banned people? i have to imagine that many folks make themselves unwelcome for one reason or another. the back room staff more than likely takes prinde in nailing Griffin Book persons... not your average "banned for being drunk and disorderly" types. (not saying that's why defcon folk were banned, but i'd imagine they fall into the less severe category)

[not5150]

Re: Banned from the Riv?

I suspect once all the dust dies down many of the bans will be forgotten. I think the Riv is overreacting, and just needs time to calm down.

And if not there are lots of other dumps on the strip that will be happy to take our money.

Casinos have a very very long memory and bans are almost never forgotten. They keep a ban book and the surveillance guys pride themselves on catching bans who try to come back on property.

[Deviant Ollam]

Re: Banned from the Riv?

I feel really lame asking this, but what was the red bull incident?

one person got too drunk and acted like an asstard. part of this entailed throwing a canned beverage out of a window. fortunately no one was hurt, but someone could have been. it wound up being a huge security incident, with both that person as well as others who were merely in the vicinity being kicked out of the hotel and, therefore, out of defcon.

[Ne0nRa1n]

Re: Banned from the Riv?

I feel really lame asking this, but what was the red bull incident?

[Abby_Normal]

Re: Banned from the Riv?

I suspect once all the dust dies down many of the bans will be forgotten. I think the Riv is overreacting, and just needs time to calm down.

And if not there are lots of other dumps on the strip that will be happy to take our money.

[astcell]

Re: Banned from the Riv?

Yeah I was in a room 2 floors down from the red bull incident and was booted. One guy who walked into said room while security was interrogating me got booted. Another kid who followed that guy into the room got booted.

I can see security going up to the room in question and booting everyone when nobody confessed, but taking an elevator down and looking for more people to fuck with is pretty damn stupid.

This attitude from security is akin to what I see in third world countries when you give a brute a gun and a license to carry it. Then again it is a gambling hotel and they have the state's gestapo breathing down their neck. They can't look like they are cutting anyone any slack.

Is one of these tricks a ninja mask to hid you from the eye in the sky? Because I was told they took the pictures of people that got booted.

So next year grow your hair back and don't wear black.

[staticblac]

Re: Banned from the Riv?

oh, I have a trick or two up my sleeve... don't you worry your pretty little heads about it

Is one of these tricks a ninja mask to hid you from the eye in the sky? Because I was told they took the pictures of people that got booted.