The Riv

[licutis]

Re: The Riv

.... The beef I have with management is that I got stuck in the elevator (hey, it happens) but not only did it take them over an hour to get me out, they refused to open the doors and just let me out. Furthermore they actively prevented a friend of mine from getting me out and told him to leave, as if witnesses weren't allowed. When they finally did get me out they videotaped me, wanted identification, had me fill out a report and all the typical paperwork. But they didn't even bother to apologize. When I asked why there wasn't anything in the inside of the elevator indicating when the elevator was last inspected the security guard chuckled and said he didn't know how often they inspected them. I understand there's the liability factor, and that the Riveria isn't responsible for their own elevators (apparently they contract it out to a company called "Otis"). I spoke with the head of risk management and was informed that the response I got was the best they could do.

I have some advise for anyone who gets stuck in a elevator. When you get stuck you find you self with two options.

1. Press the button on the phone and wait 1-2 hours to be removed.

2. Pickup your cell phone, call 911, start screaming that you are stuck in a elevator and you need to get out, (think panic attack, easy to fake) ask them to send the fire department. There is one thing that is guaranteed to happen when the fire department gets there in 5-10 mins. They will destroy the elevator, getting you out in the process, leaving the Riv with a very large repair bill. Firefighters just love breaking things with their large assortment of destructive tools, you just keep yelling for help and they will feel compelled to get out the gas powered metal saw and cut a hole in the door. Some FD's will just do this without any prodding others may want you to play up the panic attack angle, remember panic attacks come and go without warning!!

I found myself in this situation and remembered to my days in college when elevator's breaking down was the norm. 20 Minns later the local FD had me out, one elevator door destroyed.........

As far as making you fill out reports!? Thats crazy, I got quite ill at DC12 at the AP and had to take a cab to the hospital (non drinking related.) The AP guard tried to get me to fill out HIS report for him. I handed him his form back with my ID and told him its not my job to fill out his report. This must be a Vegas guard laziness thing. It is there job to write the report of what happened, from there prospective, not yours...

[Thorn]

Re: The Riv

I have some advise for anyone who gets stuck in a elevator. When you get stuck you find you self with two options.

1. Press the button on the phone and wait 1-2 hours to be removed.

2. Pickup your cell phone, call 911, start screaming that you are stuck in a elevator and you need to get out, (think panic attack, easy to fake) ask them to send the fire department. There is one thing that is guaranteed to happen when the fire department gets there in 5-10 mins. They will destroy the elevator, getting you out in the process, leaving the Riv with a very large repair bill. Firefighters just love breaking things with their large assortment of destructive tools, you just keep yelling for help and they will feel compelled to get out the gas powered metal saw and cut a hole in the door. Some FD's will just do this without any prodding others may want you to play up the panic attack angle, remember panic attacks come and go without warning!!

I found myself in this situation and remembered to my days in college when elevator's breaking down was the norm. 20 Minns later the local FD had me out, one elevator door destroyed.........

As far as making you fill out reports!? Thats crazy, I got quite ill at DC12 at the AP and had to take a cab to the hospital (non drinking related.) The AP guard tried to get me to fill out HIS report for him. I handed him his form back with my ID and told him its not my job to fill out his report. This must be a Vegas guard laziness thing. It is there job to write the report of what happened, from there prospective, not yours...

These days, most PDs and FDs have elevator door keys. They can simply open the door rather than destroying it.

[mouseling]

Re: The Riv

These days, most PDs and FDs have elevator door keys. They can simply open the door rather than destroying it.

As a matter of fact, I have a copy of the NYC fire department elevator Key. Very useful for getting to floors w/o general public access.

-mouse

[Thorn]

Re: The Riv

As a matter of fact, I have a copy of the NYC fire department elevator Key. Very useful for getting to floors w/o general public access.

-mouse

I should clarify what I was talking about, although you probably know this already Mouse. There are typically two such "FD" keys for most elevators. One is the standard type of key used on the elevator car's control panel or the master control panel. This key allows fire personnel to override the controls, and do things such as open doors on "non-public" floors, skip floors on the automatic calls, etc. This is what I think you're talking about.

The second type (what I was talking about initially) is used from the corridor side of the door to gain access to the shaft, and doesn't resemble a normal key at all. Typically these look like a toggle bolt or some kind of odd wrench, and it is inserted in the door itself. If you look at the corridor side of most elevator doors, there is an small (~ 3/8") circular opening about 6' off the floor. That accepts the door key. When inserted, it opens the door directly into the shaft, for access to the elevator car's interior door or the car's roof, floor, and/or cables, depending where the car is in relation to the open door.

Needless to say using one of these door keys may be dangerous in the wrong circumstances, since you may be exposing yourself and others to a VERY long drop, or where elevator cars are moving at a very high rate of speed from above you or below you.

[mouseling]

Re: The Riv

I only have the former, not the latter. And, I don't think I use it properly anyway. I definitely wouldn't want to fall down the Riv's elevator shaft. As much as I'd like to be, I am not the acrobat in Ocean's 13.

-mouse

I should clarify what I was talking about, although you probably know this already Mouse. There are typically two such "FD" keys for most elevators. One is the standard type of key used on the elevator car's control panel or the master control panel. This key allows fire personnel to override the controls, and do things such as open doors on "non-public" floors, skip floors on the automatic calls, etc. This is what I think you're talking about.

The second type (what I was talking about initially) is used from the corridor side of the door to gain access to the shaft, and doesn't resemble a normal key at all. Typically these look like a toggle bolt or some kind of odd wrench, and it is inserted in the door itself. If you look at the corridor side of most elevator doors, there is an small (~ 3/8") circular opening about 6' off the floor. That accepts the door key. When inserted, it opens the door directly into the shaft, for access to the elevator car's interior door or the car's roof, floor, and/or cables, depending where the car is in relation to the open door.

Needless to say using one of these door keys may be dangerous in the wrong circumstances, since you may be exposing yourself and others to a VERY long drop, or where elevator cars are moving at a very high rate of speed from above you or below you.

[DaKahuna]

Re: The Riv

I only have the former, not the latter. And, I don't think I use it properly anyway. I definitely wouldn't want to fall down the Riv's elevator shaft. As much as I'd like to be, I am not the acrobat in Ocean's 13.

The sight of Mouse using a key that fits in a hole 6-foot off the floor ! The question is chair or step ladder?