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  • seramai
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    Re: Catch me if you can.

    Originally posted by Dark Tangent View Post
    I remember watching him speak on a college cable tv channel about 18 years ago. He did a fantastic job, and apparently the TV Show Heart to Heart was inspired by his adventures.

    He did keynote speeches a couple years back at major security conferences and I hear he did well then too.

    As to if it is the right content, I think first it would be a budget issue!
    Dear Tangent,

    You're probably correct that it is a budge issue. However, isn't that an assumption until some one asks?

    --seramai

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  • Dark Tangent
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    Re: Catch me if you can.

    I remember watching him speak on a college cable tv channel about 18 years ago. He did a fantastic job, and apparently the TV Show Heart to Heart was inspired by his adventures.

    He did keynote speeches a couple years back at major security conferences and I hear he did well then too.

    As to if it is the right content, I think first it would be a budget issue!

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  • seramai
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    Re: Catch me if you can.

    Given the good discussion above, I won't contact him as I am not a Defcon muckity- muck.

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  • shrdlu
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    Re: Catch me if you can.

    Originally posted by Nikita View Post
    I appreciate your opinon, but as usual, I disagree.
    As usual? One would hope we are not always diametrically opposed. Actually, I should say that I owe you an apology, since I allocated things that I *know* you are responsible for (speaker selection) to Russ. Since you've helped select some pretty decent speakers over time, you'd think I'd have gotten that one straight.

    Originally posted by Nikita View Post
    I wouldn't jump to any assumptions about those of us responsible for speaker recruitment and selection and what we may presume interests the other six thousand folks at Defcon. Also, maybe I don't get your statement, but admitting that he was wrong about defrauding many people and stealing millions of dollars and not to mention loosing a good part of his freedom in the process, is something that would be bad to say?
    I guess I'm trying to couch my opinion of his current direction in a politically correct manner. He's a good guy, and I found his talk personally inspirational. I admit that much of the defcon audience is older, and more settled than they used to be.

    Originally posted by Nikita View Post
    Also, There are several speakers who have been on our roster that normally have rather high speaking fees but have always waived their fees and spoken to us graciously. There are many aspects to Defcon that would interest someone of his background, he could speak and tailor his talk several ways and having a good reputation with both the "hacker", business and federal communities we may provide a comfortable venue.
    http://www.abagnale.com/index2.asp

    There's a link on that page for the people that handle his speaking engagements. I say this because that page also reminds us (as he'd said in his talk) that he did not want to be contacted directly. I can also tell you (since the fees are a matter of public record) that his fee for speaking here was in the $20,000+ range (I don't remember exactly anymore, since I looked it up almost a year ago).

    http://www.kepplerspeakers.com/speak....asp?1+EV+1175

    I don't mean to rain on anyone's parade, of course. It's certainly possible to persuade him to waive the fees, but I'd suspect that it's a non-trivial effort.

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  • Nikita
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    Re: Catch me if you can.

    Originally posted by shrdlu View Post
    I would think that you ought to run such a thing past more official people, such as Russ or DT. I doubt strongly that he'd be willing to waive his fee, and I still think that he's the wrong speaker for the Defcon audience. People here, in the outlands, liked him, but then, he admitted that everything he'd done was bad, wrong, and other stuffs. II found his speech moving, but it's just not, at all, the kind of thing that would interest a bunch of folk at Defcon. In addition, I believe the speaking fee was quite hefty.
    I appreciate your opinon, but as usual, I disagree. I wouldn't jump to any assumptions about those of us responsible for speaker recruitment and selection and what we may presume interests the other six thousand folks at Defcon. Also, maybe I don't get your statement, but admitting that he was wrong about defrauding many people and stealing millions of dollars and not to mention loosing a good part of his freedom in the process, is something that would be bad to say?

    If you would like to hear him speak, Russ would not be the person to contact. You can contact DT or mail talks(at)defcon(dot)org with your idea, the latter is recommended as DT's email is slow sorting.

    If you would like to contact him directly, that is your prerogative and not anything you would need to run by Defcon. However, as is common sense, offering someone something you can not provide yourself is not recommended. Every so often fan-boy-ish based requests have historically put events into motion.

    Also, There are several speakers who have been on our roster that normally have rather high speaking fees but have always waived their fees and spoken to us graciously. There are many aspects to Defcon that would interest someone of his background, he could speak and tailor his talk several ways and having a good reputation with both the "hacker", business and federal communities we may provide a comfortable venue.

    That's MY two cents.
    Last edited by Nikita; April 2, 2008, 14:20. Reason: typo

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  • shrdlu
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    Originally posted by seramai View Post
    I thought he might speak to new issues in security as we (the public) are aware of his past. Speaking fees would be a killer. I wonder if would hurt/offend if I sent him an e-mail and just asked...
    I would think that you ought to run such a thing past more official people, such as Russ or DT. I doubt strongly that he'd be willing to waive his fee, and I still think that he's the wrong speaker for the Defcon audience. People here, in the outlands, liked him, but then, he admitted that everything he'd done was bad, wrong, and other stuffs. II found his speech moving, but it's just not, at all, the kind of thing that would interest a bunch of folk at Defcon. In addition, I believe the speaking fee was quite hefty.

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  • seramai
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    Re: Catch me if you can.

    I thought he might speak to new issues in security as we (the public) are aware of his past. Speaking fees would be a killer. I wonder if would hurt/offend if I sent him an e-mail and just asked...

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  • shrdlu
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    Re: Catch me if you can.

    Originally posted by theprez98 View Post
    My guess is that unless he waives his speaking fee, no one could afford it.
    In addition, I've listened to him, and it's more than a bit dry. It might be different if he was talking at Defcon. I think he's done the talk for so long that it's turned into memories of talks, rather than memories of events. He does say that he's sorry he did it all.

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  • theprez98
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    My guess is that unless he waives his speaking fee, no one could afford it.

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  • seramai
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    Catch me if you can.

    How about having Frank Abagnale speak on security.

    http://www.abagnale.com/
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