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  • TheCotMan
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    Re: Defcon 17 suggestions

    Originally posted by HighWiz
    I talked to TheCotMan about creating a category under "Projects" as this is may be a perfect/ideal use for that forum function. Though I suppose it could also be slaved under Contest/Events as well in the Projects area.
    The way I was looking to accomplish this was to have a single, shared project space for all contests and events that desired them.
    Refinement and selection is done by using the "Version" pull down menu to choose the contest or event, and the other pull down menus to specify what the task is related to:

    https://forum.defcon.org/project.php...st&projectid=3

    New labels, versions, and the items in many of the pull-down menus can be altered or expanded with new items.

    To see this, choose to create a new task.

    We could add back bugs and feature requests to the project space, but those didn't make sense in contest/event planning.

    The thought was to move the same project space to each contest/even each year.

    Yesterday, I added "Defcon Thursday Event Planning" which can be expanded to specific thursday events having their own version if that is desired.

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  • HighWiz
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    Re: Newbie Track: surviving defcon

    Originally posted by Thorn
    Suggestion: This is probably stating the obvious, but HighWiz's FAQ would be my choice for a starting point for what to tell newbies. It's wonderful, and covers about 99% of what they need to know. Use that for a handout.
    Over the past month, I've been working on version 2.0 . And looking at it/taking it from a New Attendees perspective there definitely are a lot of things at the con that remain unknown... Even in my own research the forums hold a lot of good questions and answers, but sometimes the threads have so much useless crap in them that getting to the actual meat is a harrowing prospect.

    There is also a lot of information and ground to cover, all of the major sections of the FAQ itself have expanded in the number of questions. With the Con being larger both in attendance and contest/events there's a helluva lot going on.

    There were even a few questions that I had that I couldn't even find an answer to on the forums. Luckily I knew who I could go to and ask, whereas someone who is new may not know or may be too intimidated to. Even the jargon that the forums members themselves throw around leaves some gaps. Take HHV for example... Everyone here probably knows it refers to Hardware Hacking Village, but it fails the search criteria since it's only three characters.

    In relation to the Newbie track, I wish/would hope that some of the media would attend since it would probably help them as much the "newbies".


    My point is that an intro to defcon or something along those lines isn't a bad idea. Though the format and best way to convey that information is still something I'm split on. I'll post more on that matter after I give it some more thought.


    I believe that the newbie track (or whatever it's called) should cover much more than that though. I think you (Thorn) would be a good presenter in relation to some wireless info. Dealing with the "newbies" will/would take a certain type of presenter that I think you would be ideal for...

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  • Thorn
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    Re: Newbie Track: surviving defcon

    Suggestion: This is probably stating the obvious, but HighWiz's FAQ would be my choice for a starting point for what to tell newbies. It's wonderful, and covers about 99% of what they need to know. Use that for a handout.

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  • HighWiz
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    Re: Defcon 17 suggestions

    Originally posted by valkyrie
    Charmed to know you are on board. And leave my horse out of this.

    Regards,

    valkyrie
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    sapere aude
    So who else is on board?

    I saw Astcell say:
    Count me in. We were all n00bs one and how son we forget. We are only where we are because we found a good role model to latch onto for our first dive into the community.
    .

    I'm sure there must be other people who want to throw in? What are yours/everyone elses ideas on logistics? How bout ideas on talks that can be given? Thoughts on how it will be run so as to not negatively impact the other events already on Thursday (ie: ToxicBBQ).

    I talked to TheCotMan about creating a category under "Projects" as this is may be a perfect/ideal use for that forum function. Though I suppose it could also be slaved under Contest/Events as well in the Projects area.

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  • valkyrie
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    Re: Defcon 17 suggestions

    Originally posted by HighWiz
    It wasn't an actual question, but thanks for the thought.



    At first when I read this thread, I didn't really give much credence to the concept of a n00b track/break out session/'forum' on Thursday. But the more I let it rattle around in my head, the more I start to believe it's not a horrible idea.

    Granted there are logistical issues that may arise both from a conference as well as an attendee perspective, but it doesn't diminish the veracity of the original concept.

    Perhaps TheCotMan can break this specific discussion off into another thread?
    Charmed to know you are on board. And leave my horse out of this.

    Regards,

    valkyrie
    __________________________________________________ ___________________
    sapere aude

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  • HighWiz
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    Re: Defcon 17 suggestions

    Originally posted by DaKahuna
    I can only verify the last three years. Did not know about it my first year at Defcon but I am pretty sure five years is the correct number.
    It wasn't an actual question, but thanks for the thought.

    Originally posted by valkyrie

    Okie. I am an adverse creature and don't really like you people (Lie number 1). It has been posited by people I actually like and respect to do some kind of noobish thing to acquaint said noobs with the vagaries of that which is DefCon. Ok, so, if anyone is interested, I will pony up and attempt to speed school folks who are interested (Why, WHYWHYWHY do I do this to myself, why?). The speed topics would include: Why you shouldn't annoy Priest; how NOT to attend a party; "That guy is Roamer and don't poke the beast"; "I am not here for your personal benefit, gee, why don't you shower?" and the ever popular, "Guess what? It's not all about you!" For some of the ladies? "Computers really are cool" and, "Vegas: It's really NOT all about shopping."

    Seriously, for anyone who desires a clue? We (that is the pontifical "we") are putting together a forum for the noobs and the nervous. Oldsters who have behavior issues are also welcome to attend. It's the least that can be done for a group of people I don't care a rats butt about (Lie number 2).

    We will convene in the parking garage prior to the TBBQ. Or perhaps the powers that be will give us actual meeting space. Stay tuned.
    At first when I read this thread, I didn't really give much credence to the concept of a n00b track/break out session/'forum' on Thursday. But the more I let it rattle around in my head, the more I start to believe it's not a horrible idea.

    Granted there are logistical issues that may arise both from a conference as well as an attendee perspective, but it doesn't diminish the veracity of the original concept.

    Perhaps TheCotMan can break this specific discussion off into another thread?

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  • valkyrie
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    Newbie Track: surviving defcon and other related items

    Originally posted by HighWiz
    Shit, has the Toxic BBQ really been going on for five years?
    Yes, and they have served more than shite burgers. :-)

    Okie. I am an adverse creature and don't really like you people (Lie number 1). It has been posited by people I actually like and respect to do some kind of noobish thing to acquaint said noobs with the vagaries of that which is DefCon. Ok, so, if anyone is interested, I will pony up and attempt to speed school folks who are interested (Why, WHYWHYWHY do I do this to myself, why?). The speed topics would include: Why you shouldn't annoy Priest; how NOT to attend a party; "That guy is Roamer and don't poke the beast"; "I am not here for your personal benefit, gee, why don't you shower?" and the ever popular, "Guess what? It's not all about you!" For some of the ladies? "Computers really are cool" and, "Vegas: It's really NOT all about shopping."

    Seriously, for anyone who desires a clue? We (that is the pontifical "we") are putting together a forum for the noobs and the nervous. Oldsters who have behavior issues are also welcome to attend. It's the least that can be done for a group of people I don't care a rats butt about (Lie number 2).

    We will convene in the parking garage prior to the TBBQ. Or perhaps the powers that be will give us actual meeting space. Stay tuned.

    Regards,

    Valkyrie
    __________________________________________________ _____________
    sapere aude
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