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  • Gun show during Defcon17

    FYI.
    The Crossroads of the West gunshow will be at the Tropicana Hotel/Casino the weekend that Defcon is in Vegas.

    You can print out a $1.00 off coupon for the gunshow.
    “If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun.” - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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    Re: Gun show during Defcon17

    That is all the more reason to go to Vegas for Defcon :P
    "I wash my hands of those who imagine chattering to be knowledge, silence to be ignorance, and affection to be art." -Kahlil Gibran

    "Half the world is composed of idiots, the other half of people clever enough to take indecent advantage of them." -Walter Kerr

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    • #3
      Re: Gun show during Defcon17

      *sigh* As if I needed more drains on my time during the weekend.

      What're the laws concerning buying guns at a gun show not in your state? I'm looking now, and have found all kinds of confusing information. Specifically, buying a handgun for the first time in Las Vegas means a 3 day waiting period ("Cooling off"). Nothing specifically about rifles, although most hotels forbid weapons but I could ship it home.

      Not really planning on buying anything new while I'm over there, but it would be nice to know ahead of time if I could in case I saw a good deal.

      M.
      Secretary

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      • #4
        Re: Gun show during Defcon17

        Anyone up for a group trip?
        Happiness is a belt-fed weapon.

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        • #5
          Re: Gun show during Defcon17

          Originally posted by Melesse View Post
          What're the laws concerning buying guns at a gun show not in your state? I'm looking now, and have found all kinds of confusing information. Specifically, buying a handgun for the first time in Las Vegas means a 3 day waiting period ("Cooling off"). Nothing specifically about rifles, although most hotels forbid weapons but I could ship it home.
          Federal laws prohibit the transfer of a firearm between non-licensed persons that reside in different states, unless it is facilitated by a FFL dealer in the buyer's state of residence. [18 USC 922(a)(3) & 18 USC 922(a)(5)]
          (You can buy it in Nevada, but you can not take possession of it in Nevada. It needs to be shipped to a FFL dealer in the state you live in, where you will do paperwork for it.)

          Federal law allows a non-licensed person to purchase/aquire/transfer a long gun in another state, that is contiguous to your state of residence, from a FFL dealer located in that state. However, the transfer has to comply with both the purchaser's and seller's states' laws. [18 USC 922(b)(3)]
          (If you live in Arizona, Idaho or Utah, you can buy & take possession of a rifle/shotgun in Nevada. California is exempt from this due to California law.)

          The Clark County handgun waiting period should have been voided by state pre-emption law that was passed in 2007. However, a "blue card" or Nevada CCW permit, makes you exempt from the waiting period.
          (If you don't have a FFL, you don't need to worry about this because you can't take possession of any handguns you buy in Nevada.)
          “If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun.” - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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          • #6
            Re: Gun show during Defcon17

            Gracias. It would have had to have been a really good deal anyways to justify transporting it or shipping it.

            I'm still going though, I'd like a light for my SA XD, and am in a place inconvenient for shows.

            And last year, after two days of presentations, I was fried on Sunday. It would be nice to take a break in the middle sometime and think about something completely different.

            M.
            Secretary

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            • #7
              Re: Gun show during Defcon17

              Originally posted by Quiet View Post
              The Clark County handgun waiting period should have been voided by state pre-emption law that was passed in 2007. However, a "blue card" or Nevada CCW permit, makes you exempt from the waiting period.
              (If you don't have a FFL, you don't need to worry about this because you can't take possession of any handguns you buy in Nevada.)
              Yes, it SHOULD have been voided, but it was not. This is a recent topic on OpenCarry.org and NevadaShooters.com. A letter was sent to the Nevada AG's office, and the reply was that the local ordinances were not voided, just taken over (yet kept in place) by the state. As assinine as that is... So as of yet, the blue-card registration is still in effect in Clark County.

              Also, to clarify, Blue Card does not exempt you from Brady like it used to, but it DOES exempt the 3-day wait.

              It used to exempt Brady as well, but it was discovered that some LEO douchebag in Northern Nevada was giving BC's away to family and friends without doing the background the first time, and a restricted person managed to get one. Upon discovery of this, all BC'd became invalid for Brady exemption. All it takes is one douchebag to F it up for the rest of us.

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