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  • mfreeck
    Janitor of technology
    • Jun 2002
    • 387

    #121
    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: SOCKS!!!!

    Originally posted by blackwave
    Peculiar, I have never been able to maintain any type of relationship after no longer being in said relationship... I find it an interesting concept... but does not seem viable in any of my circumstances.
    I've only managed to really be friends with my last partner. We were together for around 3 years. We are both decent people, just not made for each other. It's nice to have someone for a friend who knows me so well, and now that I spend so much time in front of the monitor, friends are rare these days. ;)

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    • zero
      Really Senior Member
      • Oct 2001
      • 92

      #122
      Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: SOCKS!!!!

      Originally posted by mfreeck


      I've only managed to really be friends with my last partner. We were together for around 3 years. We are both decent people, just not made for each other. It's nice to have someone for a friend who knows me so well, and now that I spend so much time in front of the monitor, friends are rare these days. ;)
      Had a couple of friends who got married and had a couple of kids. Finally realized that they loved each other, but couldn't stand living together. Divorced, but had houses on the same block so the kids could go back and forth. Stayed friends last I knew - her friend married her ex and she was a bridesmaid. Unfortunately a rare event. By the time most people break up it already a mess. They just realized where it was going and skipped the nasty stage.
      justazero -
      "Skepticism, like chastity, should not be relinquished too readily."
      - George Santayana

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      • mfreeck
        Janitor of technology
        • Jun 2002
        • 387

        #123
        Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: SOCKS!!!!

        Originally posted by zero
        Finally realized that they loved each other, but couldn't stand living together.
        Yeah, what I think is a little strange are the people who break up and stay living together, or I had a friend who was roommates for awhile with her ex-husband (who had been ex for a long time).

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        • blackwave
          Member
          • Jun 2002
          • 4270

          #124
          Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: SOCKS!!!!

          Originally posted by zero
          They just realized where it was going and skipped the nasty stage.
          Yeah not to mention expensive. I know a couple of people that are always bitching about the ex-wives, ex-husbands and how much they got screwed during their divorces...

          I do not see any value in getting legally married. I find that it is more of a binding contract that if the contract is breached, penalties will apply. Love shouldn't have to do anything with the legal system. If two people who love each other can't sort things out by themselves why even be together... the stranger even are those who get married, but with 1 or more prenuptials involved.

          People are constantly changing, fall in and out of love... get attracted and de-attracted to the same and other people... why make a contract for something that may not be there in a few years?... would love to hear someone explain this and make sense. :)

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          • russ
            Goon
            • Oct 2001
            • 638

            #125
            Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: SOCKS!!!!

            kids. The offspring of the relationship.

            Originally posted by blackwave

            People are constantly changing, fall in and out of love... get attracted and de-attracted to the same and other people... why make a contract for something that may not be there in a few years?... would love to hear someone explain this and make sense. :)

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            • blackwave
              Member
              • Jun 2002
              • 4270

              #126
              Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: SOCKS!!!!

              Originally posted by russ
              kids. The offspring of the relationship.
              Often times more of a biological occurrence due to some poorly planned event.

              Children are often the pawns in destructive parental relationships and are the real ones suffering throughout any type of divorce, separation...

              The world is certainly peculiar in how there are those who spend a lifetime and a fortune in finding methods to spawn children... and then there are those who can spit them out almost two at a time, and live a lifetime of poverty...

              Welcome to the disfunctional world little one, you are certainly in for quite the ride.

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              • blackwave
                Member
                • Jun 2002
                • 4270

                #127
                Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: SOCKS!!!!

                This world full of single mothers and single fathers... instant families everywhere... just add parent.

                Hell even Disney is showing television shows based on families that are disfunctional... what does that tell everyone? Is this part of an evolved state... or deragatory state?

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                • astcell
                  Human Rights Issuer
                  • Oct 2001
                  • 7512

                  #128
                  Well if you find a gal and stick with her for 30 years and never marry, then you die, good luck on her collecting social security on your wages. If she is an immigrant, good luck on her being able to take the fast track to citizenship.

                  Gay couples are fighting tooth and nail for the right to marry. It has tons of benefits when it comes to taxes as well. And don't believe most of that "common law" mariage tripe either, most states do not recognize it and some states will still send you to jail, even today!

                  If kids are involved, marriage gives even more rights. But this isn't the place realy to argue pro or con for marriage, just be sure to do your homework!

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                  • blackwave
                    Member
                    • Jun 2002
                    • 4270

                    #129
                    Originally posted by astcell
                    Well if you find a gal and stick with her for 30 years and never marry, then you die, good luck on her collecting social security on your wages.
                    Personally i don't plan to hang out with someone just to collect their green, and hopefully do not meet people that practice this either under the guise of love.

                    Originally posted by astcell
                    And don't believe most of that "common law" mariage tripe either, most states do not recognize it
                    Common law is not recognized by the state of California, unless of course the couple had a common law marriage before entering the State.

                    It appears from this viewpoint presented, that marriage is nothing more than to way to collect money, to save money... I think love should be a lot more than money involved.

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                    • bikinigurl
                      Member
                      • Jun 2002
                      • 121

                      #130
                      Originally posted by blackwave

                      Personally i don't plan to hang out with someone just to collect their green, and hopefully do not meet people that practice this either under the guise of love.It appears from this viewpoint presented, that marriage is nothing more than to way to collect money, to save money... I think love should be a lot more than money involved.
                      well I think what he meant was
                      when you're like 89 and u die, and your "wife" is left, she can't collect your benefits, if you're not married, which, I wouldn't think you would expect an 80+ yr old woman to start working again...
                      and it's really hard for like older people to survive on their ssi now, just imagine what it's going to be like when we're older..


                      mmm motorized wheelchair..

                      toodles
                      -b
                      it's like a hot dog, only not.

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                      • blackwave
                        Member
                        • Jun 2002
                        • 4270

                        #131
                        Originally posted by bikinigurl
                        well I think what he meant was
                        No I totally understood what astcell meant... Hopefully after x number of years there was something saved besides the ss benefits. Which again focuses back onto marrying for money.

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                        • bikinigurl
                          Member
                          • Jun 2002
                          • 121

                          #132
                          denero

                          yea well.. when you live in a society/world where the almighty dollar is basically the ruler of everything...

                          not saying that marrying for money is like a thing to do or a good thing
                          but if you don't save/invest you're not gonna be happy when you have people wanting money from you for things like water, and electric etc...

                          and I don't think that saving for the future is necesarily considered marrying for money, because regardless of wether you're are married or single you should be saving for the future anyway, that's just considered good planning or something..

                          anyways...

                          *train of thought gone*


                          -b
                          it's like a hot dog, only not.

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                          • blackwave
                            Member
                            • Jun 2002
                            • 4270

                            #133
                            Re: denero

                            Originally posted by bikinigurl
                            I don't think that saving for the future is necesarily considered marrying for money, because regardless of wether you're are married or single you should be saving for the future anyway, that's just considered good planning or something..
                            ... and so then we now have undeniable evidence! :)

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                            • astcell
                              Human Rights Issuer
                              • Oct 2001
                              • 7512

                              #134
                              Well I care enough about my wife that if I kick the bucket I am insured seven ways to Sunday. I want to make sure that hse is up to her neck in green, it is not as good as having me, but it's a help, and it's the same with her, she is insured, I am not after her money but it'd suck to need another job because we crapped out on the odds of life.

                              At my rate I can retire at 50. Most folks today can not even retire at 75. No one sets out to be a Wal-Mart greeter.

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                              • blackwave
                                Member
                                • Jun 2002
                                • 4270

                                #135
                                Originally posted by astcell
                                Well I care enough about my wife that if I kick the bucket I am insured seven ways to Sunday.
                                Hmmmmm, you mentioned your wife is a redhead... eh? Nothing compliments a redhead more than the color green... ;)

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