Hot girl hacker needs help

[BeautifulHacker]

Re: Hot girl hacker needs help

ROFL, yeah especially someone with boobs.

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LMAO!!! Of course! Doesn't it help that I am totally (wanting with high level of desire) into hacking, I am a model, smart and slightly funny? AND I could be the only model that actually WANTS to attend and be a big part of Defcon. You guys are not easy by any means.

[hexjunkie]

Re: Hot girl hacker needs help

LMAO!!! Of course! Doesn't it help that I am totally (wanting with high level of desire) into hacking, I am a model, smart and slightly funny? AND I could be the only model that actually WANTS to attend and be a big part of Defcon. You guys are not easy by any means.

Skeptical would be the word I'd try.... Most of us are about as easy as any 2 dollar hooker so long as we have a beer or two in us.

The model thing isn't 100% accurate, there are a good bit of web shows with some fairly attractive women as hosts, and a good bit of the female hackers are very beautiful.

[BeautifulHacker]

Re: Hot girl hacker needs help

Awesome. Glad to know there really are other girls that are into this stuff. This is really hard breaking into a mans world here, as seen by this thread. Discouraged at this point but that won't stop me. I just need a little help along the way is all.
Peace

[Ellen]

Re: Hot girl hacker needs help

Without bothering to read any of this because I just don't give a ....

For real guys? ... For real??

Where is Cot? <3

[lexxmac]

Re: Hot girl hacker needs help

Without bothering to read any of this because I just don't give a ....

For real guys? ... For real??

Where is Cot? <3

Yeah... Agreed. It got silly once the facebook URL went up.

[TheCotMan]

Re: Hot girl hacker needs help

Where is Cot?

Sorry, the only issue so far is something similar to trolling, but not enough for me to come to a conclusion. Evidence suggesting trolling:

"Look at me. I claim to be a girl and claim to be pretty. This is even my name, so it is what I want you to know about me first more than how clever I am, or how awesome my technical skills are by example or demonstration."

This is a little annoying, as it isn't what I consider hacking, but by itself, it isn't a rule violation. It can become a rule violation if it becomes trolling, or becomes an advertisement for service, but there is no evidence of either of these, only "guilt by approximation" where the behavior is similar to what we've seen from trolls, but may not be trolling. (Jury is still out on this: waiting for more data.) Because the behavior is similar, many member's "bullshit" detectors have been triggered, and with the trouble caused by Faye in recent memory, everyone's suspicion is heightened, and rightly so. Some doubt will remain in many users' minds about this user being, "legit," (whatever that means.)

This also provide some concern:

Awesome. Glad to know there really are other girls that are into this stuff. This is really hard breaking into a mans world here, as seen by this thread. Discouraged at this point but that won't stop me. I just need a little help along the way is all.

A few searches on the forums related to women and hacking would have revealed there are women on the forums that are hackers (by example and demonstration) and even a recent thread, which discussed complaints about hacking being, "a mans world." (A few of the women on this forum actually replied to that thread, too.) Also, this comment appeared after the user said they were going to search for Faye on the forums, implying that Faye was identified as a peer to this user. Lurking would have provided an opportunity to understand the problems with the claim stated above and a better understanding of the troubles that lead up to Faye's being banned from the forums.

In the rules, we impose a forced lurking period so new users can become familiar with the forums. For some spaces on the forums (Rides & Room Sharing and /dev/random) we allow users to post right-away. Even spending just 1 hour to read about contests, events, and current planning related to Defcon could provide a new user with a great deal of knowledge related to Defcon and socializing on the forums, and from my experience, hackers are not afraid of reading or education.

Back to this thread: certainly, some members are acting silly, and this has provided a laugh, and example posts from this user appear to have things in common to content from trolls, but I'm still playing the, "wait and see," game and was avoiding direct communication about this, until you asked.

The question I ask myself with users like this, "is their behavior causing problems on the forums?" If so, we probably have a rule to address the problem. There probably won't be any action until a rule is broken or mods see trouble.

Users learn, or they don't. If they don't learn, then they probably were not hackers.

I'm going back to the shadows to watch, wait, and see.

[HighWiz]

Re: Hot girl hacker needs help

For real guys? ... For real??

Where is Cot? <3

For real what?

Without bothering to read any of this because I just don't give a ....

Also, if you didn't take the time to read the entire thread, maybe you should have saved everyone the trouble and not replied.

Some of the guys are being guys and talking about boobs, cause that's what they're into.

As Cot said, most peoples bullshit detectors just went off and they sought to investigate the issue further.

[noid]

Re: Hot girl hacker needs help

You people are all chumps of the highest caliber.

Thats my 0.02 cents. You can get me my change later

[Siviak]

Re: Hot girl hacker needs help

You can get me my change later

forget TheCotMan... this sounds like a job for OBAMA!!!

[eris]

Re: Hot girl hacker needs help

And it looks like the bait has been taken...

Would we know him and love him if he was anything else?

HMMM THIS SEEMS LEGIT.

yay, free candy!

Since I'm now HighWiz 2.0, I'll just wish you the best of luck, hope you find a ride and place, and that you enjoy your first DefCon.

What? Who made you bigger, faster, stronger and rebuilt you?

Lexxmac thanks for the info. How do I prove I am just a girl from Utah, who is completely interested in hacking and making hacker friends, would like a career in social engineering AND I would love to be a model on the cover of a Python site, or a C++ site. Just trying to get my foot in the door with all these things. You can fake almost everything in life, but you can't fake passion.
!

From Utah? Where's Siv...
A career in social engineering? Bad start.
A model on a computer oriented website? Talk to Teklord. He can help.
You can fake passion. It's called Porn. There is a different convention for that.

So yea, with all that being said, I'd said chances are better than not that she is real.

Real? Sure. No idea what is really going on and trying to get by on her boobs so far? Yes. I haven't counted but the word "model" has come up in almost every post.

LMAO!!! Of course! Doesn't it help that I am totally (wanting with high level of desire) into hacking, I am a model, smart and slightly funny? AND I could be the only model that actually WANTS to attend and be a big part of Defcon. You guys are not easy by any means.

Oh honey. You aren't the only big breasted chick to hit this con before. Model is just another word for naked chick in the pool.

Skeptical would be the word I'd try.... Most of us are about as easy as any 2 dollar hooker so long as we have a beer or two in us.

The model thing isn't 100% accurate, there are a good bit of web shows with some fairly attractive women as hosts, and a good bit of the female hackers are very beautiful.

This. Man, I hate myself a little for doing that.

Awesome. Glad to know there really are other girls that are into this stuff. This is really hard breaking into a mans world here, as seen by this thread.
Peace

This comment is actually incredibly insulting. Man's world my little ass. Did you watch the recent Fox news show about how girls might actually be into computers and decide, "hey wow, I bet if that's true I could go there and bend boys around my finger if I pretend to be into hacking"? You had better have your act together if you make it here, cuz if you don't the girls who really do know stuff are gonna eat you alive. That's not me by the way. I don't do computer stuff. Just saying.

You people are all chumps of the highest caliber.

Thats my 0.02 cents. You can get me my change later

At the end of it all, who cares? It's fun for a bit at least. And it might just save us all some time at Con.

[paint]

Re: Hot girl hacker needs help

..i'm a girl, i'm pretty ,...... and i need a ride and possible room share .....

ask Dec0de he can attest to it ...

[Ellen]

Re: Hot girl hacker needs help

For real what?

Also, if you didn't take the time to read the entire thread, maybe you should have saved everyone the trouble and not replied.

Some of the guys are being guys and talking about boobs, cause that's what they're into.

As Cot said, most peoples bullshit detectors just went off and they sought to investigate the issue further.

"Trouble?" Allow me to clarify: I don't care to read every post in here because it doesn't matter to me if this person is "legit" or not. It is either a troll pretending to be someone else to make fools of everyone here, or a troll n00b spouting "look at me" bs which is entirely offensive to the established and well respected female members of this community. Either way, it is a troll. Cot says he has his eye on it, and that is good enough for me. I trust him entirely.

As for boobs.. This convention is held in VEGAS for goodness sake. There will be plenty of sexy boobies. Of this you have my word.

[hexjunkie]

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As for boobs.. This convention is held in VEGAS for goodness sake. There will be plenty of sexy boobies. Of this you have my word.

Also, please do not forget hackers and pimps..

[badkobold]

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As for boobs.. This convention is held in VEGAS for goodness sake. There will be plenty of sexy boobies. Of this you have my word.

Why do you think Defcon is held in Vegas? Chicks man...

God bless you DT!

[HighWiz]

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It is either a troll pretending to be someone else to make fools of everyone here, or a troll n00b spouting "look at me" bs which is entirely offensive to the established and well respected female members of this community. Either way, it is a troll.

I think the difference is in our philosophies. Did she approach the situation in a less than ideal way? Yes. Is it enough to totally dismiss her and not allow for a second chance? I'd say no. In general, I find that women are indeed harder on other women, and I guess it's true here as well. Honestly, I think everyone would be better served if perhaps one of the females reached out to her. Maybe it would avoid a future Faye type situation.

And honestly, nothing she did is outside the SE mindset. She geared her post towards her perceived audience and used what assets she had available.

I guess simply dismissing her as a troll is an easy out. It's much easier than someone taking the time to foster a relationship and guide her. Yes, she's a n00b, but she's also an opportunity. Every n00b is an opportunity to create a possible future valued member of our community and not a detractor.