DEAF CON

[Deviant Ollam]

Re: DEAF CON

I love the latest round of edits. There may have been one or two typos, i'll read through again to try to catch them. Heh, and i also tend to be a fan of Chicago (a.k.a. Oxford) commas in serialized lists. But if you're more of an AP style person, eh... to each their own. ;-)

[arose4beni]

Re: DEAF CON

I love the latest round of edits. There may have been one or two typos, i'll read through again to try to catch them. Heh, and i also tend to be a fan of Chicago (a.k.a. Oxford) commas in serialized lists. But if you're more of an AP style person, eh... to each their own. ;-)

Cool. I'm surprised there are only a couple typos since I've been jacked up on every kind of cold medicine in existence this weekend. Hopefully I'll fix them sometime tomorrow.

Yes I too adore the Oxford comma. MLA just recently started accepting the APA style of comma usage about two years ago. It's been a bizarre debate among educators. I just figured since it's classified as non-fiction in both topic and writing style, I'd leave the APA format. I think I'll unify all the commas in the next round of edits.

Also, how are we writing the event's name? I left it lowercase and the same throughout, but is it Deafcon, DeafCon, or DEAF CON? For that matter, is the correct typing of the con's name DefCon, Defcon, or DEFCON?

Edit: I went through and corrected some of the typos. Also thinking about the leaders having a Hangout on Thursday night to hopefully finalize the proposal. Thoughts?

[Knollgrass]

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Yes I too adore the Oxford comma. MLA just recently started accepting the APA style of comma usage about two years ago. It's been a bizarre debate among educators. I just figured since it's classified as non-fiction in both topic and writing style, I'd leave the APA format. I think I'll unify all the commas in the next round of edits.

Also, how are we writing the event's name? I left it lowercase and the same throughout, but is it Deafcon, DeafCon, or DEAF CON? For that matter, is the correct typing of the con's name DefCon, Defcon, or DEFCON?

Edit: I went through and corrected some of the typos. Also thinking about the leaders having a Hangout on Thursday night to hopefully finalize the proposal. Thoughts?

I love how you two are debating the merits of a citation schema while I'm the linguist and I couldn't care less about that =)

Sorry I've been off the forum the last few days, my wife and I have been packing up the house for the move to DC. That and trying to get everything lined up for a smooth transition.

All of the edits look great to me. Deviant, are we feeling close to a point were we can pitch to DT or some of the other planners? I'm much more skilled at talking to people than writing proposals, as you could see with my obvious lack of writing ability. Kudos to arose4beni for being an English teacher!

How do you guys feel about a G+ hangout sometime soon to get ready to talk/send proposal to the Defcon leadership?

[TheCotMan]

Re: DEAF CON

Deviant, are we feeling close to a point were we can pitch to DT or some of the other planners?

Reminder: tomorrow is March 1, and would be a good day for you all to submit your proposal. If you can convince Deviant Ollam to submit it, you have a much better chance of getting a response to it sooner, as he is an established entity with a name that would be recognized by parties involved, and has social and working relationships the members of different departments. (This is only a suggestion, like any others I've provided. I'm not doing any of the work, and control nothing at Defcon, and have no "sway" in decisions made by people in departments you would work with on this. This advice is a "best guess" based on experience.)

[Deviant Ollam]

Re: DEAF CON

Email sent to DT. We eager await his response, either via email or here on the forums.

Thank you so much to everyone who thought this is a good idea and (even more) thank you to the folk who stepped up to help coordinate it further and do the work of preparing the proposal, etc.

[Knollgrass]

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Email sent to DT. We eager await his response, either via email or here on the forums.

Thank you so much to everyone who thought this is a good idea and (even more) thank you to the folk who stepped up to help coordinate it further and do the work of preparing the proposal, etc.

Awesome!!! I've had so much fun being involved with this. Deviant and theCotMan big thanks to you two for being the experts on how to go about this.

[arose4beni]

Re: DEAF CON

Cool beans.

I'll make one final pass on the document before turning in. Others please feel free to correct glaring grammatical errors or typos.

Seriously, thank you everyone thus far for you help with this!!

Edit: Done. Text is all the same color, typos fixed, and commas unified. Long live the oxford comma! Now I'm going to bed. I'll probably look over it again in the morning, just be sure.

[Knollgrass]

Re: DEAF CON

Cool beans.

I'll make one final pass on the document before turning in. Others please feel free to correct glaring grammatical errors or typos.

Seriously, thank you everyone thus far for you help with this!!

Edit: Done. Text is all the same color, typos fixed, and commas unified. Long live the oxford comma! Now I'm going to bed. I'll probably look over it again in the morning, just be sure.

Have we heard any news from DT Deviant?

BTW I'm finally moved from Alabama! Now a proud resident of Alexandria, VA!

[Dark Tangent]

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I got your proposal and am going to go over it with the team, and get you guys feedback.

Thank you for putting in all the time and effort, it is great to see the community come together and work on an idea that inspires.

[arose4beni]

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Hope all is well. I just wanted to share a logo with everyone that I made a while back. What do you think? Could this be a design we use for social media purposes, t-shirts, a sign, etc?

[Deviant Ollam]

Re: DEAF CON

well, fingerspelling is a little bit predictable, i think. now, if we were doing zeros and ones in fingerspelling, heh... that'd be kinda cooler. :-)

but that lends itself to a contest more than a simple logo. currently, the logo i created for the Twitter feed and such is the sign for "interpreter" but with the index finger & thumb loops holding nuts. i am likely going to want to change the logo to something similar to the new sign for "hacker"

[Deviant Ollam]

Re: DEAF CON

it's much more of a gamer reference than a purely hacker reference, but something about watching Steven show the new sign for hacker made me think of a hadouken. so i took this image and modded it a little in photoshop just now...

...that's of course way too big to be a "logo" and it's a sloppy photoshop job (the thumb and unused fingers aren't tucked in nearly enough) but perhaps it might inspire someone with real ink pen skills to create something of a hadouken DEAFCON logo for people to consider? something that reconciles our current "just the hands" concept with the hadouken using letter "H" hands.

[Deviant Ollam]

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btw, i have heard back from someone on DEFCON staff and they are pursuing the matter to see when we might get a response about the proposal.

[astcell]

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I just watched new sign for hacker and while watching it thought, "This is youtube, therefore he is NOT going to make goatse hands..."

[arose4beni]

Re: DEAF CON

well, fingerspelling is a little bit predictable, i think. now, if we were doing zeros and ones in fingerspelling, heh... that'd be kinda cooler. :-)

You mean like this?

I do like the Hadouken reference and agree if someone with artistic talent wishes to make us something more than just hands, by all means please do. I like to think I have artistic/designer talent, but alas I do not.