I’m rich! And you are all losers

[astcell]

Seems ck3k needs a free membership to www.blackwaveshaved.com

[blackwave]

um yeah... don't click on that...

[ck3k]

Originally posted by blackwave
um yeah... don't click on that...

Cannot find server.....seems Blackwave doesn't want us seeing things we shouldn't.

[blackwave]

Originally posted by ck3k
Cannot find server.....seems Blackwave doesn't want us seeing things we shouldn't.

I am protecting your eyesight man!

[astcell]

That link is a military doomsday device!

[blackwave]

we are beta testing it for the new border defense systems...

[ck3k]

Originally posted by astcell
That link is a military doomsday device!

the shine of blackwave's shaved head would destroy the ozone...:D

[astcell]

It gives a new meaning to the phrase 'hair trigger'.

[skroo]

Re: I’m rich! And you are all losers

Originally posted by Rhombus
I hear many IT professionals (on the tv) who were tortured in high skool and have now made it big, brag about how now they are rolling in cash and all the bullies are lined up at the methadone clinic.

Wow... That is some of the most naive crap I've ever heard, period. Either you're just out of school and in your first 'industry' job, or sufficiently independently wealthy that you've been able to be completely oblivious to the fact that there are highly-qualified and capable people heading for two years' solid unemployment due to continuing fallout from the dot-com collapse.

Having spent 18 months out of the last two years trying to find stable employment again (which, thank God, I managed to finally do), I can't imagine anyone apart from a pathological liar spouting crap like that.

You can ask a 30 something year old computer geek about high skool, and you will more often than not get a long list of names and a description of each one of those persons personality defects.

Big deal. Defcon, as a gathering, probably has one of the highest percentages of people with *serious* personality defects. It happens everywhere and anywhere.

Do the high skool sports stars, bullies, and unattainable girls think about the geeks?
Do you think these people if asked could remember the name of the high skool geeks?

Once you're a decade or more out of school, I can tell you that it really won't matter.

[Rhombus]

Your right, I'm not only not in "industry" but I'm still in skool. Your very mean though, could not imagine why you’ve been out of work. Dot Com? How about 1992-1993 when IBM and Zerox were laying everyone off in the Gilroy and Morgan Hill area. The Dots were not the first bubble to burst. I'm just a geek, and not a very good one. If I were a good geek I could have kept working in the Tech sector instead of joining the Coast Guard in ‘95, becoming a welder, and working as an ironworker, destroying both my knees, and returning to skool to do what it is I really enjoy.

[octalpus]

A "good geek"? How do employers weed out the good geeks from the bad geeks? Years of experience? Certifications? College degrees?

Those of us who have been in the field know firsthand that any of those can improve a person, but they can also make someone who is otherwise worthless look really impressive on paper. It is a tough world out there, and the tech industry has been hit hard. There are some great people that can't get a job, because it's hard to express knowledge through a resume. You can show experience, schooling, and tests... but how do you show the years of inquisitive tinkering? How do you reflect what you've learned through playing around with everything you could get your hands on since you were 6? Two equal resumes are definitely not two equal employees, but the resume is what usually gets your foot in the door, and without something tangible, you're not going to get very far.

I know too many wonderful people with incredible skills that are unemployed, or working in crappy jobs, barely able to feed themselves. The days when any idiot could make a triple digit salary in IT are over. If you want stable work and a good salary, go into nursing.... they have a huge shortage. If you want to do the work of five people in an understaffed, underfunded department, always wondering if you'll survive the next round of layoffs... constantly being asked to take salary cuts or unpaid vacations, just so that your company can afford to keep you, but knowing that you're doing work that you love... then... well... you're in the right place.

[skroo]

Originally posted by Rhombus
Your right, I'm not only not in "industry" but I'm still in skool. Your very mean though, could not imagine why you’ve been out of work. Dot Com? How about 1992-1993 when IBM and Zerox were laying everyone off in the Gilroy and Morgan Hill area.

News flash: '92-'93 was the last big shakeup in the industry. It generally happens on about a nine-year cycle: 2001, 1992, 1983, 1974. It wasn't just IBM and Xerox laying people off, it was a lot of companies (though nowhere near on the scale of the 2001 collapse).

Furthermore, as for the 'I'm so mean' aspect: consider that it really pisses me off to see people talking about something when they have no concept of the realities of the situation. Making it sound like we're all sitting around eating little pointy bits of toast covered in caviar while guzzling champagne and supermodels stroke us off as the school bully is run over by a steamroller is so far off-base as to not even be funny. It's much more like, 'gee, I hope I don't catch a cold this month because I can't afford a bottle of cough syrup and if it turns into bronchitis or pneumonia, I don't have any medical insurance'. Or, 'oops, something just went tits-up on the car and there's no way I can fix it and eat'. And then there's the ever-fun, 'fuck, I can't pay my rent; where am I going to live?'

So, yeah. Having been there and having to watch some of my friends still be there makes me a bit touchy. Next.

[converge]

Hrm... I thought I had already posted something about how stupid this thread was; maybe I decided it wasn't worth my time.

IT people love to call themselves geeks don't they... The word 'geek' is growingly as useless as 'hacker', 'inevitable', or 'terrorist'... just whatever people want to associate them with and use in their own self-serving fashion.

I do not consider myself a 'geek'. I knew some geeks in school, I am not one. I may consider myself a moron for being so engrossed in systems, but that does not make me a geek. I am more proud to say that I am not an IT person, nor do I seek a 'professional' job doing IT 'work'.

There are a lot of really intelligent, qualified people who can do the jobs better than most hired halfwits.. that are unemployed because others in 'IT' play the bullshit game better. Take many admins for example...

[ch0l0man]

Well first off I would say that I wouldn't change my youth for all of bill gates money, money comes and money goes, but my memories are here 'til I die, well hopefully they last that long.
I do tech support for a software company and you wouldn't believe all the IT people I run across a lot of so called admins that have know idea were the start button is at, lol. yes i support windows. There are techies and there are IT professionals. Techies go home after work and get on their computers for another 8 hours, IT Professionals go home and forget about computers.
As for the geek label I guess that doesn't fit me I was far from being a geek, unless you call running the streets being a geek?

[skroo]

Originally posted by ch0l0man
As for the geek label I guess that doesn't fit me I was far from being a geek, unless you call running the streets being a geek?

They're all labels. Best way to avoid getting one is to not be a stereotype in the first place.