DSL Vulnrability

[Sacrifice]

Re: Re: DSL Vulnrability

Originally posted by fddy
U got static IP, dsl, no firewall and u r PC is on all night. :D

Surprise u have not been hacked, or maybe u have :D

I probably have been hacked but as long as my computer doesn't phuck up on me I dont really care...:D

[astcell]

I agree. Hack me, whip me, just don't give me Rosie O'Donnell wallpaper.

[Sacrifice]

Originally posted by astcell
I agree. Hack me, whip me, just don't give me Rosie O'Donnell wallpaper.

Well that was random:p

[Cyb3RSoldi3R]

Okay first off AST, your HILARIOUS. My girlfriends rolling on the ground with laughter.

Second Sacrafice do not double post. That's why the edit button was created. Do you see anyone else with two posts back to back? No, though there are rare occations. Just don't do it anyway.

Third,

DSL=Dynamic IP address
Cable=Static IP address

Static= Stays the same
Dynamic= Changes

Oversight I think your close but no cigar. Unfortunatly, in my area it's kind of opposite. The reason I say kind of is this, my DSL (which I've had for many years) is not PPPOE or PPTP. The IP is always the same. I can unplug the modem for a month and let it sit but when I plug it back in the IP is the same (I've tested this so to TRY to change my IP on purpose) so obviously I'd consider that static. This is now where the kind of comes in. The cable provided here has the IP stay the same also. It will never change, unless the modem is unpluged for 10 seconds. This I leave for everyone to interpret as whether you feel it's static or dynamic. I'd consider it dynamic but that's just one opinion. Ok, so don't set your rule in stone. There are variations. :D Just thought you'd all like to know.

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[Chris]

Originally posted by Cyb3RSoldi3R
Okay first off AST, your HILARIOUS. My girlfriends rolling on the ground with laughter.

Second Sacrafice do not double post. That's why the edit button was created. Do you see anyone else with two posts back to back? No, though there are rare occations. Just don't do it anyway.

Third,



Oversight I think your close but no cigar. Unfortunatly, in my area it's kind of opposite. The reason I say kind of is this, my DSL (which I've had for many years) is not PPPOE or PPTP. The IP is always the same. I can unplug the modem for a month and let it sit but when I plug it back in the IP is the same (I've tested this so to TRY to change my IP on purpose) so obviously I'd consider that static. This is now where the kind of comes in. The cable provided here has the IP stay the same also. It will never change, unless the modem is unpluged for 10 seconds. This I leave for everyone to interpret as whether you feel it's static or dynamic. I'd consider it dynamic but that's just one opinion. Ok, so don't set your rule in stone. There are variations. :D Just thought you'd all like to know.

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You are pretty much dead on. In most (not all) areas Cable is dynamic but a very long lease period so it might as well be static. You can however release all/renew all and get a new IP if you want.

I am not as familiar with the workings of DSL, however I would imagine it is also DHCP with a spiffy long lease. Try it out (release all/renew all) and let me know. I am curious.

[Cyb3RSoldi3R]

(I've tested this so to TRY to change my IP on purpose)

I have Chris. I left the modem unplugged for a month so as too reset my IP (I was a bad kid :D ). Didn't work, my IP is still the same to this day. Release drops the address same as anything. Renew just sets the address back into place.

You are pretty much dead on.

Praise from chris, I feel Blackwavish.

[astcell]

I end up with the same IP rather often, and I have a dialup!

[PoT]

Re: Re: Re: DSL Vulnrability

Originally posted by 0versight
DSL=Dynamic IP address
Cable=Static IP address

Static= Stays the same
Dynamic= Changes

Actually here in BC, the reverse is true. Telus provides a static IP with ADSL, and Shaw provides a dynamic IP with cable. Mind you, the dynamic IP never changes, unless they find your running services that they don't want you running (ie. Webserver, FTP server...)

-PoT

[PoT]

Originally posted by 0versight
What I said earlier was the general idea, but everyone loves to be technical.

laterz.

Hey, sorry.. I hadn't read all the other posts and by the time I did, I was too lazy to nuke mine. Actually, it's hard to believe I have the energy to post this one.. Didn't mean to be so technical (rare that anyone here would ever say that... :p ) I just thought we were unique in the Great White North or something :p

-PoT

[Chris]

Originally posted by 0versight
What I said earlier was the general idea, but everyone loves to be technical.

DSL has DHCP, Cable can have it as well I believe, but since DSL is dialed into, it changes everytime you do so. Cable is always on obviously, in most cases you would need to physically reset your modem to obtain a new address.

They are both relatively the same. But most people prefer DSL because of the ease to obtain new addresses and hence they feel more "secure".

Actually, as I mentioned before, dial up or no has nothing to do with it. It all depends on the lease term of the DHCP server and the DHCP excluded IP addresses.. It assigns the lease by MAC address so if your DHCP server has a long lease time, even if you are using dial up (as astcell mentioned) you will still get the same IP address assigned. IPs that are excluded from the assignment list will not be reassigned period. A relatively good explanation of this is here :http://www.udel.edu/network/how.html

And as for being too technical...this is the Computer Security forum in the Technical area of this board. Questions and responses in this area are SUPPOSED to be technical. If you can't carry on a technical discussion then don't post in this forum.

[Cyb3RSoldi3R]

HOLY CRAP, I retract my previous statement. My IP has changed and I got a lease time to... Well that friggen sucks. Took forever to memorize my own IP. I even made a song about it. :(

[^Dash^]

DSL is surely more secure than a Cable connection....remember those routers they ussualy use? if on the same c class with them.. they are already 0wned...
example 81.196.12.x ---it's from my country... guess what!!

[fddy]

Re: Re: Re: DSL Vulnrability

Originally posted by 0versight
DSL=Dynamic IP address
Cable=Static IP address

Static= Stays the same
Dynamic= Changes

Most of places DSL= Static

Are u sure at u r place DSL = dynamic :D

[blackwave]

Certainly this depends on the ISP...

I had pacbell's dsl when the first began to offer it in socal and it was static by default.. later I heard they went to dynamic, and you had to pay for static, but if you already had static then you didn't have to pay extra... you only had to pay extra if you wanted more than one static ip...

I then moved and got cable, the cable was static and offered by @home (now cox)... very similar deal to the pacbell dsl....

I then moved again and got cable and had cox but it was dynamic.

I then got another service from SBC, using DSL and they are dynamic... you have to pay extra for static.

so DSL does not mean you get static off the bat, nor does it mean you get dynamic... same goes for cable... call your ISP and ask them what their service offers you in your area and how you can go about changing it to what you want.

... also chances are if you want to run a legit service you need to get their more expensive service offering... some isp block conventional ports such as 80... sure you can get around it, but they will eventually find you if they want to... and having people go to your nonconventional http is somewhat cheesy if anything. (unless you are trying to be ninja-stealth)..

[Cyb3RSoldi3R]

Uh Blackwave, isn't SBC and Pacbell the same? I mean like there hasn't been enough commercials about it. :D