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  • bobaxos
    Member
    • Sep 2003
    • 64

    #16
    yeah i would like to see that commercial too. I know of an SBC commercial that had a "hacker" in it, they were trying to show that they bring in these people to test their networks before anyone else does. Ill put it up later.

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    • windwalker3579
      Member
      • Sep 2003
      • 37

      #17
      I think I've seen the cisco commercial in question on tv once, the SBC one I haven't...

      The double standards are kind of lame. But it's nothing new, Just them talking out of both sides of their mouths *gasp* you mean that really happens :D
      Last edited by windwalker3579; October 13, 2003, 09:55.
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      • pezz
        Unconfirmed Email
        • Jan 2003
        • 736

        #18
        Originally posted by ck3k
        Well either way you can get a hat that matches accordingly.
        Shame on you CK3K you sent them to the wrong site...

        Lets get freaky....

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        • Clp727
          Member
          • Feb 2003
          • 149

          #19
          Actually one would think that persons in the IT/Security field would appreciate hackers. I know I envy the talent that they possess. If it weren't for hackers, security consultants would have no career! It is my opinion that most IT persons respect, and admire, hackers. Hackers are very intelligent and well educated as most of you know. If anyone hates a hacker...they are just JEALOUS. :)

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          • windwalker3579
            Member
            • Sep 2003
            • 37

            #20
            Originally posted by bobaxos
            I know of an SBC commercial that had a "hacker" in it, they were trying to show that they bring in these people to test their networks before anyone else does.
            If they test their networks.. Then how did they explain 22,000 vpc's going *poof* last summer?
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            • Chris
              Great Satan of the East
              • Oct 2001
              • 2866

              #21
              Originally posted by Clp727
              Actually one would think that persons in the IT/Security field would appreciate hackers. I know I envy the talent that they possess. If it weren't for hackers, security consultants would have no career! It is my opinion that most IT persons respect, and admire, hackers. Hackers are very intelligent and well educated as most of you know. If anyone hates a hacker...they are just JEALOUS. :)

              You obviously have absolutely no clue what a hacker is do you? If you did you would realize that the existence of hackers has nothing to do with the continued employment of security professionals. Don't make me get loopy up in here.
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              • bobaxos
                Member
                • Sep 2003
                • 64

                #22
                Originally posted by windwalker3579
                If they test their networks.. Then how did they explain 22,000 vpc's going *poof* last summer?
                its was just a commercial, i dont know anyting about SBC, i just found it funny and on topic.

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                • Gadsden
                  Goon
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 1241

                  #23
                  Originally posted by hackajar
                  Where is the demographic that they are showing this commercial? Or better yet, is there a net clip?
                  I have not seen a clip on the net... but this is about my first time to fart around on the net in about a week. It is played on the History Channel, and (I think) MSNBC in the Memphis area. I will see if I can find a clip, or dig up my TV card and catch it. Of course, I watch maybe 4 hours of TV a month.. so that could be a bit tricky.
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                  • Clp727
                    Member
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 149

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Chris
                    Don't make me get loopy up in here.
                    Ooops! :(

                    I guess I could be wrong. I was under the impression that there has been a rise in hacking attemps into corporate networks. Therefor the need for network security has risen in the last couple of years. That is what they tell us in class.
                    My professor is a Security consultant. When he speaks of "hackers" he sounds as if he is one. I dont have a clue about hacking....how could ya tell?
                    Seriously. I like you guys. I don't wanna ruffle any feathers, just wanna learn as much as possible. :)

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                    • Chris
                      Great Satan of the East
                      • Oct 2001
                      • 2866

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Clp727
                      Ooops! :(

                      I guess I could be wrong. I was under the impression that there has been a rise in hacking attemps into corporate networks. Therefor the need for network security has risen in the last couple of years. That is what they tell us in class.
                      My professor is a Security consultant. When he speaks of "hackers" he sounds as if he is one. I dont have a clue about hacking....how could ya tell?
                      Seriously. I like you guys. I don't wanna ruffle any feathers, just wanna learn as much as possible. :)

                      Hacker--Someone who, through either knowledge or trial and error, makes a modification to an existing piece of software, made available to the hacker community, such that it provides a change of functionality. Such change is normally a benefit. Rather than a competition, the exchange of improvements is most often experienced as a cooperative learning effort.


                      Criminal--One that has committed or been legally convicted of a crime

                      Note Hacker != Criminal


                      No feathers ruffled, just understand that what the media calls a hacker is not a hacker.
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                      • Clp727
                        Member
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 149

                        #26
                        Thats my point. The media portrays the "hacker" as a BAD GUY. That is False! I admire their ability.

                        Thanks for being nice. :)

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                        • Clp727
                          Member
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 149

                          #27
                          You are so right about that! There are lots of commercials that portray the hacker as an evil mischevious person that tries do nothing but bad to the corporate world. Cisco, for example, has a commercial showing these 3 guys that are being arrested. One performed a DOS attack. I always kinda thought that type of an attack was ususally done by script kiddies, not hackers.
                          Can't an IGMP response be disabled anyway?

                          Perhaps script kiddies should be targeted as the BAD GUY. LOL!

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                          • yankee
                            Transmutation
                            • May 2003
                            • 113

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Clp727
                            ...Can't an IGMP response be disabled anyway?
                            You mean ICMP, right?

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                            • Clp727
                              Member
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 149

                              #29
                              Originally posted by yankee
                              You mean ICMP, right?
                              Yes, sorry.

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                              • kallahar
                                Goon Like Object
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 571

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Clp727
                                Yes, sorry.
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