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  • Beginner
    127.0.0.1 is my ip
    • Aug 2003
    • 99

    #1

    What do you consider the most secure system?

    I already have an idea (not sure) so I'm looking for personal favorites and opinions. In addition does almost all windows software on aa linux system or do you have to buy or write special linux software???
    28
    Windows 98
    7.14%
    2
    Linux
    42.86%
    12
    Unix/Mac
    35.71%
    10
    Wondows XP (Home or PRO)
    17.86%
    5
    Other (If other please post)
    25.00%
    7
    "I wash my hands of those who imagine chattering to be knowledge, silence to be ignorance, and affection to be art." -Kahlil Gibran

    "Half the world is composed of idiots, the other half of people clever enough to take indecent advantage of them." -Walter Kerr
  • skroo
    Volatile Compound
    • Dec 2001
    • 2348

    #2
    This is a question that is too broad to answer. The most secure OS is one that has been properly installed, configured, and kept up-to-date on patches and application fixes. Saying that 'Windows is less secure than Linux' is a flawed statement - as an example, I've seen plenty of rampantly-rooted RedHat machines sitting in a datacentre next to unmolested Windows boxes. Why? Because the Windows boxes had been properly taken care of, and were secure compared to the Linux boxes they shared a switch with.

    Saying that one is more secure than the other is a very specious argument - there are too many things outside of that statement that aren't being taken into account.

    To answer your question regarding Windows application compatibility under Linux: no, they are not directly compatible. Check out www.lindows.com , www.vmware.com , and www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/virtualpc/ .
    Last edited by skroo; November 25, 2003, 16:46.

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    • noid
      Fun Enforcement Agent
      • Oct 2001
      • 2394

      #3
      I was going to remark on how this isnt a very well thought out question, but I think Skroo covered the points I was going to make. The most secure system is the one you understand the most and spend the most time working on.

      I return whatever i wish . Its called FREEDOWM OF RANDOMNESS IN A HECK . CLUSTERED DEFEATED CORn FORUM . Welcome to me

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      • bascule
        omgpwnies!
        • Jul 2003
        • 1946

        #4
        The most secure computer system is one someone has taken an axe to, then ground the remains down to a fine powder, then spread that powder over the molten lava within a crater of an active volcano. You can rest assured that such a system will never be compromised by malicious individuals.
        45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B0
        45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B1
        [ redacted ]

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        • jesse
          Weird Turned Pro
          • May 2003
          • 505

          #5
          You don't have "buy or write" linux software, most of it is free, with the source code available if you want to make changes.

          Not to say all linux software is free, though. There are a fair ammount of commercial, closed source prggrams.

          though, remember, caveat emptor. you only get what you pay for.
          "Those who would willingly trade essential liberty for temporary security are deserving of neither." --Benjamin Franklin

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          • Beginner
            127.0.0.1 is my ip
            • Aug 2003
            • 99

            #6
            Originally posted by noid
            I was going to remark on how this isnt a very well thought out question, but I think Skroo covered the points I was going to make. The most secure system is the one you understand the most and spend the most time working on.
            :( Your'e right Ireally didn't think about the question much before I posted it. What I think I was trying to ask is, What OS is most preferred for security purposes when configured properly?
            "I wash my hands of those who imagine chattering to be knowledge, silence to be ignorance, and affection to be art." -Kahlil Gibran

            "Half the world is composed of idiots, the other half of people clever enough to take indecent advantage of them." -Walter Kerr

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            • DISINGENUOUS
              Persona Non Grata
              • Aug 2003
              • 265

              #7
              Originally posted by Beginner
              :( Your'e right Ireally didn't think about the question much before I posted it. What I think I was trying to ask is, What OS is most preferred for security purposes when configured properly?
              The question isn't about what system is secure or insecure, because any system can be broken.

              The question is "What is the most secure form of data storage, becase ultimately, thats' what we really care about. The system is just a host for the data. Any OS can host the data itself.
              --Shatter

              "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
              - Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)

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              • noid
                Fun Enforcement Agent
                • Oct 2001
                • 2394

                #8
                I'm curious why Unix and Mac are grouped together. They're totaly different operating systems. If you are thinking OSX, you should say OSX. I wouldn't consider MacOS and HP-UX to be in the same class.

                I return whatever i wish . Its called FREEDOWM OF RANDOMNESS IN A HECK . CLUSTERED DEFEATED CORn FORUM . Welcome to me

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                • Beginner
                  127.0.0.1 is my ip
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 99

                  #9
                  Originally posted by noid
                  I'm curious why Unix and Mac are grouped together. They're totaly different operating systems. If you are thinking OSX, you should say OSX. I wouldn't consider MacOS and HP-UX to be in the same class.
                  It was a last minute thing after I already specified how many categories I wanted on the poles, I didn't feel like going back to fix it.
                  "I wash my hands of those who imagine chattering to be knowledge, silence to be ignorance, and affection to be art." -Kahlil Gibran

                  "Half the world is composed of idiots, the other half of people clever enough to take indecent advantage of them." -Walter Kerr

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                  • KeLviN
                    Poor but happy
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 1951

                    #10
                    OS2. deffinately
                    the fresh prince of 1337

                    To learn how to hack; submit your request

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                    • jesse
                      Weird Turned Pro
                      • May 2003
                      • 505

                      #11
                      My comodore 64 is pretty unhackable.
                      "Those who would willingly trade essential liberty for temporary security are deserving of neither." --Benjamin Franklin

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                      • murakami
                        Member
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 700

                        #12
                        I use the "air gap" firewall. Nothing to plug-in or turn on.

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                        • skroo
                          Volatile Compound
                          • Dec 2001
                          • 2348

                          #13
                          Originally posted by murakami
                          I use the "air gap" firewall. Nothing to plug-in or turn on.
                          $100 to the first person to 0wn my Kaypro-1 without resorting to physical access.

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                          • kree
                            wasup
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 373

                            #14
                            Originally posted by skroo
                            $100 to the first person to 0wn my Kaypro-1 without resorting to physical access.
                            I feel my telekinesis superpowers coming on!
                            Guess that will just move it though.
                            If there is a Church of WiFi, then this is it's !

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                            • astcell
                              Human Rights Issuer
                              • Oct 2001
                              • 7512

                              #15
                              Hmmm were any viruses ever written for the Kaypro-1? Makes me wonder what the first virus ever was.

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