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    [/COLOR]Hey i hot this section of binary on its own in an e-mail and am dying to know wat it means

    00000000
    00001000
    00000111
    00000111
    00001001
    00000101
    00000111
    00000101
    00000101
    00001001

    Help much appreciated, also a reccomendation on a binary guide text wud b nice tho not ness as i reas up on the nature of no.s
    Last edited by DigitalContact; June 21, 2004, 13:07.

  • #2
    Originally posted by DigitalContact
    Hey i hot this section of binary on its own in an e-mail and am dying to know wat it means

    00000000
    00001000
    00000111
    00000111
    00001001
    00000101
    00000111
    00000101
    00000101
    00001001[/COLOR]
    Binary is a collection of1's and 0'. The exact meaning of what each string of bits means is something that can't really be understood without the context. 8 bits of binary could be characters, or on 8 bit machines, an integer, or on larger machines can be part of an integer, long, string, float, double, other ADT etc. Even if you know it is a character of some type, you won't know what character set or symbol code exchange/format it is using. If Unicode, then you would need multiple 8-bit chars together, if ASCII, 7 of the 8 bits...

    Binary can also be used to represent executable code, octets in an IP address, addresses, and many more things and even if it is known to be part of an instruction, you would need to know the architecture, the boundary for which bits are the begin and end for each instruction.

    So. I will answer your Q:
    The above includes data or it does not.
    The above includes instructions or it does not.

    This question is much like the posts you see in crypto groups where someone posts some "encrypted text" and says, "can anyone figure out what this means?"

    [Fixed spelling mistakes, content added below, changed quoted text color to drop the lame "black on grey", improved layout]

    Help much appreciated, also a reccomendation on a binary guide text wud b nice tho not ness as i reas up on the nature of no.s
    Um. You can't know how to interprit a string of bit without context. You can convert the value of a string of bits into a decimal value (assuming unsigned), or octal, or hex, but these won't help you to understand what they mean unless you have context.

    The easiest metaphor I can consider to describe this is as follows:
    You see a gangster pull up in a car. He flashes his lights once each second, then pauses 2 seconds and flashes again for one second. What does that mean? Unless you know what table the ganster was using for translating the bits, you do not know if it is data (I have the money) or an instruction (send the money over.)
    Last edited by TheCotMan; June 21, 2004, 13:56.

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    • #3
      Solution

      0 people have been here before ye
      8 miles from the coast of cuba
      7 yards deep, you'll find
      7 seashells, one for each colour of ye olde raynebow
      9 chains point away from the shells like spokes of a wagon wheel
      5 chains clockwise from north will be the correct chain
      7 miles, as the shark swims, you'll come to a series of caverns
      5 contain certain death
      5 more contain uncertain death
      9 from the left contains me treasure


      Yarr, it be a hacker pirate map
      Last edited by pc-0x90; June 21, 2004, 13:47. Reason: typo
      a pc-0x90 by any other name is a nummish..
      Bigger 1:23

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      • #4
        Originally posted by pc-0x90
        Yarr, it be a hacker pirate map

        uuummm... don't you mean it's a Software Pirate map? :D
        If I had a nickle for every time someone offered me ten cents to keep my two cents to myself... I would be a rich man.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by pc-0x90
          Yarr, it be a hacker pirate map
          Quality...
          45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B0
          45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B1
          [ redacted ]

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          • #6
            Originally posted by pc-0x90
            Yarr, it be a hacker pirate map
            You did double-check the endianness on that, right? ;)

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            • #7
              Originally posted by skroo
              You did double-check the endianness on that, right? ;)
              Ok. Fine. I'll play too.

              Obviously, it would have to be "Big-Endian" since we know that a Pirate treasure is often called "Booty" and if the treasure is big, it would be Big Booty, and what is another way to refer to someone with a Big Bootie? Big-End-ian...

              /me runs and ducks for cover.
              Last edited by TheCotMan; June 21, 2004, 14:02. Reason: spelling fixes

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              • #8
                Originally posted by TheCotMan
                Obviously, it would have to be "Big-Endian" since we know ...
                fool! everyone knows all the 1337x0r pirates use win32 (and dectionary.com) rrrr
                if it gets me nowhere, I'll go there proud; and I'm gonna go there free.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by DigitalContact
                  [/COLOR]Hey i hot this section of binary on its own in an e-mail and am dying to know wat it means

                  00000000
                  00001000
                  00000111
                  00000111
                  00001001
                  00000101
                  00000111
                  00000101
                  00000101
                  00001001

                  Help much appreciated, also a reccomendation on a binary guide text wud b nice tho not ness as i reas up on the nature of no.s
                  It's Obvious

                  It's a PENIS ENLARGEMENT AD for geek
                  /* NO COMMENT */

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                  • #10
                    I'll pay you a compliment, just to confuse matters:

                    Originally posted by DigitalContact

                    00000000
                    00001000
                    00000111
                    00000111
                    00001001
                    00000101
                    00000111
                    00000101
                    00000101
                    00001001

                    Help much appreciated, also a reccomendation on a binary guide text wud b nice tho not ness as i reas up on the nature of no.s
                    Just to really confuse things, how about I pay you a compliment (twice as nice)? You know, while you "reas up on the nature of no.s"...

                    00000000 while I carry you out,
                    11111000
                    11111001
                    11111001
                    11110111
                    11111011
                    11111001
                    11111011
                    11111011
                    11110111

                    LosT

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by LosT
                      Just to really confuse things, how about I pay you a compliment (twice as nice)? You know, while you "reas up on the nature of no.s"...

                      00000000 while I carry you out,
                      11111000
                      11111001
                      11111001
                      11110111
                      11111011
                      11111001
                      11111011
                      11111011
                      11110111

                      LosT
                      Subtle. Very clever. Very nice. Witty.
                      I like this reply very much. :-)

                      [Edit: added content below]
                      Of course some might say you were being a bit negative. ;-)
                      Last edited by TheCotMan; June 22, 2004, 01:53.

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                      • #12
                        hey what does that un mean , even if it is mean i want to learn what i have to learn to understand it. if it is sarcastic THANKS I REALLY MERITED A FLAMING (in disguise) if not ,sorry.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DigitalContact
                          hey what does that un mean , even if it is mean i want to learn what i have to learn to understand it. if it is sarcastic THANKS I REALLY MERITED A FLAMING (in disguise) if not ,sorry.
                          If the above were an answer to me, I would not take it as a flame. I would take it as a joke, and the only way it makes fun of you is if you don't work to understand it. If you take the time to learn about binary and how it can be used, you will eventually come across something to help you understand the above post from LosT.

                          Almost any time a joke is explained, it's charm and entertainment is destroyed. It would be a disservice to this joke to explain it, and I won't do it.

                          A number of papers exist out there to explain different things that can be done with binary. Use google to find these, and you will be on your way.

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                          • #14
                            But there's no minus sign in binary >:)

                            Originally posted by TheCotMan
                            If the above were an answer to me, I would not take it as a flame. I would take it as a joke, and the only way it makes fun of you is if you don't work to understand it. If you take the time to learn about binary and how it can be used, you will eventually come across something to help you understand the above post from LosT.

                            I *was* going to make some reference to being negative, but I thought it might already be over his head ;)

                            Anyone who wants to learn about binary should start by learning about number bases. Learn to convert between bases BY HAND. Base 8 (Octal, for the slow kids), Base 16 (Hex, for the even slower kids: "Hey how much is $FF in American dollars?!?!") and finally base 2 (binary: "Isn't %1100100 more than 100%?") Really neat things can be done in code where you play with shifting bits (you can save lots of code space *and* speed up some executions).

                            And I *have* to say this in reply to digi's last post:

                            Ralph Wiggum: "Me fail English? That's un-possible."

                            If you really want to understand my post, try adding it to yours. You'll see that we get nowhere. ;)

                            LosT
                            Last edited by LosT; June 22, 2004, 12:58.

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                            • #15
                              beer penalty! 10 yards closer to pool 3!!

                              Originally posted by converge
                              fool! everyone knows all the 1337x0r pirates use win32 (and dectionary.com) rrrr

                              You have earned a beer penalty. You owe me a beer for making me read that and you must move 10 yards closer to pool 3.
                              That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

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