Action Requested: Input for Improving the Dunk Tank Venue

[astcell]

How about purple dye?

[noid]

To help guide this back somewhat on topic, it sounds like what the dunk tank really needs is some better marketing. Some ideas:

1. Get DT to hype it on the web site, or link to the "official EFF Dunk Tank" webpage

2. Have dunkees and times they will be dunked scrolled on the info channel

3. Have periodic announcements at the end of speeches (speaker goons can probably handle this) as to who is in the tank and whos comming up

4. Go hit the strip clubs the night before and find a few aspiring models who'd show up and get dunked. Nothing gets Defcon attendees interested in something like pussy.

5. Have the location of the dunk tank on the map.

[Tierra]

I was constantly hearing about it, knew what was going on, and knew at almost all times who was being dunked at what times... then again, I knew a couple of the guys helping run it. I did think though for a long time that it was just some last minute plans thrown together right before Defcon to do the dunk tank, I hadn't heard about it until a couple hours before it started.

[astcell]

I was serious about the income tax deductibility of the donation.

[TheCotMan]

More suggestions for dunk tank:
Last year, I think certain feds agreed to be placed in the Dunk Tank if their donations could go to some sort of chairty for kids instead of the EFF, because the feds-to-be-dunked did not agree with the idea of their service leaving more money for the EFF.

If this is going to be done again this year, it would be good to advertise that charity as NOT being the EFF so there is no confusion, and get that done well before DefCon. I would prefer it to be all EFF, just to make it less complicated.

Also, maybe get the Scavenger Hunt people to add an item like "Receipt from EFF Dunk Tank"

I was serious about the income tax deductibility of the donation.

Sure, but let me put on my tinfoil hat... :-)

You go to DefCon and pay for everything in cash. Drive there to avoid FAA, and avoid getting your picture snapped to associate you with DefCon but ask for a receipt from EFF for your donation.

Now you file your taxes and include that receipt, and the feds (IRS) know you were at DefCon. The next thing you know, you are being audited for the last 6 years of returns, and through some sort of Patriot act law dealing with information sharing, other federal agencies are interviewing you:

The FAA send out people to ask you how you go to Las Vegas without being detected at the airport. The FCC wants to know why you have been swearing on the Internet. The library of Congress wants to know when you are going to pay your fines. The FDIC says your bank account is no longer insured. The FDA wants to know what kinds of food and drugs you have been "testing" at DefCon. The DOE and NRC want to know what you know about their 2 tons of missing Plutonium. NIST wants to know why your foot is not 12 inches long...

All because of a receipt!

I AM CORNHOLIO! Whoa! This hat is pretty cool!

[astcell]

Well then I'll send EFF a check and they can hold dunk tickets for me at wil call.

As for dunken feds, were they sanctioned by their department or was it a spur of the moment idea just for the fun of it? I can see how some agencies are not into fund raising or endorsements, but the person may be. I hope they don't run into trouble back at the office when the pictures start to circulate.

[TheCotMan]

As for dunken feds, were they sanctioned by their department or was it a spur of the moment idea just for the fun of it? I can see how some agencies are not into fund raising or endorsements, but the person may be.

It felt like it was a spur-of-the-moment thing where the person being dunked preferred the money to go to another charity.

Here is what little I remember:

Before one of the presentations, Priest (maybe someone else) made an announcement about a person (fed, I think) being dunked with the proceeds going to some sort of charity for the children, or domestic abuse, or something similar. Later someone else said something about that being a charity that some feds can select for direct donation from their paychecks.

I think it was The National Center for Children and Families but I could be mistaken.

Sorry my memory is hazy on this.
Borrowing from what was said about Woodstock:
"If you can remember DefCon, you weren't really there." ;-)

Google is not helping me much. If I find more info, I'll include it later. The EFF people would likely have given permission to interrupt their dunk tank proceeding for this, so maybe they can help me out with what the charity was.

The point in mentioning this is to make sure that people know that the organization getting the money is the EFF or some other charity well before the con, and posted what charity was getting the proceeds for the dunk during the dunk.

[Tierra]

Also, maybe get the Scavenger Hunt people to add an item like "Receipt from EFF Dunk Tank"

Donations to the EFF were on DC10's list, and would of been on 11 and 12's lists if we had not decided the hunt was getting to be pretty expensive money wise, and thus unfair for those that didn't have a couple hundred to spend.

[Xodia]

I thought the Dunk Tank was good last year. I wasn't even in the loop really, and I always knew who was in it. Making it a little more advertised definatly wouldn't hurt though.

And yes, adding attractive ladies more often would definatly boost the turnout.

[Gadsden]

Let's have Bridget the Midget calling people in and monkey butlers dishing out the balls.

[hackajar]

Let's have Bridget the Midget calling people in and monkey butlers dishing out the balls.

Oddly enough (don't ask) I have a contact that can book Bridget the Midget for your dunking pleasure. I'll see if she's avalible at end of July.

[Adrenaline]

heh, booking bridget the midget would be hi-larious, and you know she can talk enough shit to get people to put down their money, biggest problem would be making sure she didnt try to charge any body too much to even show, otherwise it wouldnt be worth it.

On a side note, one improvement would be NOT dumping ice in this year, while this is hilarious to most besides the dunkee (although I couldnt stop laughing knowing grifter was freezing his ass off :) ), the big problem we had with the ice last year was the drastic temperature change in the water for the tank, causing damage to the tank. If you wanna do someting devious to a dunkee that you have something against, dont hesitate to pull a dunk tank staff member aside and ask them for some better or safer ideas, we had no problem helping people out with this last year, and im sure this year it wont be any different :)

[veruus]

If you wanna do someting devious to a dunkee that you have something against, dont hesitate to pull a dunk tank staff member aside and ask them for some better or safer ideas, we had no problem helping people out with this last year, and im sure this year it wont be any different :)

Hmm... Paint ball gun or blow darts? Decisions...

[Adrenaline]

Hmm... Paint ball gun or blow darts? Decisions...

the 'ball-pein hammer throw' is always a popular one as well :D

[Gadsden]

Oddly enough (don't ask) I have a contact that can book Bridget the Midget for your dunking pleasure. I'll see if she's avalible at end of July.

Sweet! So now does anyone have a contact for some monkey butlers?