Defcon 14 Information at DC 13 Closing ceremonies?

[big chopper]

Granted talk of DEFCON 14 may be premature--but for the benefit of us regulars, who could not make it to DEFCON 13, was there any mention of DEFCON 14 during DT's closing comments on Sunday? (Where, When, If)

--bc,

[klepto]

I'm curious as well since one of the members on this forum keeps saying defcon next year won't be at the alexis park.

[Deviant Ollam]

I'm curious as well since one of the members on this forum keeps saying defcon next year won't be at the alexis park.

i've actually heard conflicting info about defcon's contract with the AP. a few people had been saying that this was possibly the last year since our contract was up and whether or not DT et. al. would renew there (or whether the new management would have us back) was uncertain. however, at dinner on sunday night Roamer indicated that we still have two years remaining on our contract with them. (think it was he who said this... i was/am pretty ragged and worn out so i may be wrong)

for all the things that irritate the shit out of me at the alexis, there is still a very long list of reasons why it's a great location for defcon.

[klepto]

I don't really care where it's held at as long as the rooms aren't that pricey.

[big chopper]

My DEFCON experiences are divided into the Alexis Park era and the rest

I long for the old days. Attending DEFCON in a beat up casino had a certain vibe that cannot be had at Alexis Park.

I'd love to see DC14 held at The Frontier, The Sahara or The Riviera.
--bc,

[noid]

Sorry to break it to you....................wait for it......................





but Defcon 14 is canceled :)

[big chopper]

I don't really care where it's held at as long as the rooms aren't that pricey.

For reference, here are prices for area hotels for the last weekend in August (26, 27, 28)

Riviera $99, $99, $64
Frontier $32, $32, $32
Stardust $135, $109, $52
Sahara $109, $109, $52

Also cheaper food and cheaper games.
--bc,

[Zhym]

Defcon 14 is canceled :)

Of course it is. But where won't it be held next year? Will it not be at the AP, where it wasn't this year, or will it not be at another hotel?

If nothing was said at the end of DC13, that's cool. But if DT said something, impatient minds want to know.

Personally, I think we're due for another old doomed hotel. Which do you think will be imploded first -- the Frontier, Stardust, or Riviera?

[Voltage Spike]

was there any mention of DEFCON 14 during DT's closing comments on Sunday?

No, The Dark Tangent did not make any public statements about the status of the next Defcon. He strongly implied that there would be one, but nothing more specific than that.

As for the Alexis Park, I actually thought the new management did an excellent job. My only complaint this year was that people were getting keycards to my room without my permission (or even my name) ... not cool. They seemed very accepting of the pool situation (e.g., waiting for people to leave to drain the colored water), and I didn't catch the hired security harassing anyone.

[Abby_Normal]

As for the Alexis Park, I actually thought the new management did an excellent job. My only complaint this year was that people were getting keycards to my room without my permission (or even my name) ... not cool. They seemed very accepting of the pool situation (e.g., waiting for people to leave to drain the colored water), and I didn't catch the hired security harassing anyone.

That's very interesting, the last time anyone saw my wallet is was in my room, and I know I didn't have it on me, my dress was lacking in pockets.

[Deviant Ollam]

My only complaint this year was that people were getting keycards to my room without my permission (or even my name) ... not cool.

yeah, when i checked in on wednesday i had already heard stories about that happening and actually pulled the manager aside and explained, politely but very forcefully, that my room (which had a mythtv box, laptops, the locks and picks for my talk, and was a point of gear storage for my wi-fi team) was going to be home to thousands of dollars of equipment and that if there was even the slightest foul-up with people being issued keys i was going to have somebody's ass on a platter with a side of fries. he not only gave me assurances that everything was ok, but he also claimed to make a call to the head of security to "let him know the situation". well, i don't know what that means, but no one was issued a key to my room improperly. now, when my roommate arrived thursday evening whilst i was at the EFF summit, he was issued a key to the room two doors down eventhough i left explicit and detailed instructions at the desk about how to handle his arrival. ah well, let's chalk this year up to the new management (sorry to hear about things like abby's wallet and camera, tho) and hope for better next year.

however, the whole "incorrect keys" thing will be going in a letter that i'm writing to the AP which will also mention matters like: absence of chairs and tables poolside, a broken TV i had the whole time, and an invasion of ants in our bathroom at one point which all added up to me deserving either a partial refund or a discount next time, imho.

[skroo]

Personally, I think we're due for another old doomed hotel. Which do you think will be imploded first -- the Frontier, Stardust, or Riviera?

Out of any of those three, I'll take the Stardust. Fuckers gave me a case of food poisoning on an unrelated trip there six years ago and I still haven't forgiven them for it.

[kallahar]

Tuesday: Check in, no problems
Tuesday night: some guy shows up at our room with a key to our room, AP sold him our room.
Wednesday morning: A family shows up with keys to our room, AP sold them our room. We try our keys, our keys no longer work. Front desk can't figure it out, so they re-issue me my keys.
Wednesday night: Some australians show up, AP sold our room *again*, this time they kill the keys and dispatch security, but no other problems.
Thursday morning: I demand to talk to the manager. She finally figures out that they put me in the computer as a different room number.

So, for three days they kept giving me keys to a room that I wasn't assigned to, and it took the manager to realize that the room I was requesting wasn't the room I was in the computer under.

[bascule]

As somone who stayed in the San Tropez, I was pretty amazed how packed it was this year with Defcon overflow.

Defcon seems to have outgrown the AP... err, uhh, "AV"

(OT: WTF were they thinking trying to make the whole AP look like a big cheap cheesy mexican restaurant then trying to pawn the whole thing off as being "Italian"? As an Italian I'm offended...)

[Dutch]

(OT: WTF were they thinking trying to make the whole AP look like a big cheap cheesy mexican restaurant then trying to pawn the whole thing off as being "Italian"? As an Italian I'm offended...)

If no one found a chopped off horse head under the bed spreads, the AP can't have been serious about their italian decor.. But being DC, I wouldn't be amazed if somebody actually FOUND such an item in the bed, and just left it at the scavenger hunt table...

Dutch