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**TheCotMan** · August 16, 2005, 12:23

Originally posted by Planxity

This is LinuxLover... CotMan your an ass because i have no idea where you got that lesson but the program that i posted is all mine no one elses and i dont give a crap if you think i did copy it. I used no refernce from any site or book and i DID NOT COPY IT THEN MODIFY IT! I learned my lesson the first time...! So ban me again i dont care cause i know that i didnt copy it. It came from me! I got the idea from some one else's a book that I was reading but by no means did i copy it! I simply took the idea and made my own! So go to hell CotMan and thnx for making me feel like an ass.

There is one thing that I can believe in the above, and that is you are LinuxLover.

Rules:
6. Multiple Accounts
One account per user.

Banned again.

**astcell** · August 16, 2005, 12:45

Now he's going to hold his breath until he turns blue. Or maybe I should say:

;Get the attitude, breath hold time and color
Attitude = Input$("Are you mad?(1=Yes or 2=No)")
Breath = Input$("Are you holding your breath? (1=Yes or 2=No)")
Color = Input$("Are you turning blue? (3=Yes or 4=No)")

If Attitude = 1 And Breath = 1 And Color = 3 Then
Print "You're banned!"
Else
Print "Keep posting!"

**valkyrie** · August 16, 2005, 12:59

Originally posted by astcell

Now he's going to hold his breath until he turns blue. Or maybe I should say:

;Get the attitude, breath hold time and color
Attitude = Input$("Are you mad?(1=Yes or 2=No)")
Breath = Input$("Are you holding your breath? (1=Yes or 2=No)")
Color = Input$("Are you turning blue? (3=Yes or 4=No)")

If Attitude = 1 And Breath = 1 And Color = 3 Then
Print "You're banned!"
Else
Print "Keep posting!"

ROTFLMAO. This is the funniest thread I have seen in ages. Nice post AST!

valkyrie

**Second** · August 16, 2005, 14:10

Originally posted by LinuxLover

Got kinda bored so i searched for a screenshot program and i took a picture of my desktop.
Here it is http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/1346/screen122np.jpg

reply and tell me what you think.

Morpheus is still around? People still use it? And good idea giving out your screen name. At least close your buddy list before you do that.

*edit* You do not need a screenshot program to take a screen shot. Ctrl+Prnt Scrn copies your screen to the clipboard. Guess they don't have that in Linux.....or OS9

**TheCotMan** · August 16, 2005, 15:11

Originally posted by Second

Morpheus is still around? People still use it? And good idea giving out your screen name. At least close your buddy list before you do that.

*edit* You do not need a screenshot program to take a screen shot. Ctrl+Prnt Scrn copies your screen to the clipboard. Guess they don't have that in Linux.....or OS9

Heh. The user may not know it, but I am guessing that you know they exist.

To make this thread somewhat useful...

They have it in Mac OS 6?->9 and IIRC, it made PICT files in sequence at the root level of the HD or maybe a system folder/sub dir.

shift-command-3? shift-command-4? or control-shift-command-3? control-shift-command-4? It has been a while since I used it.

I do not recall if this was built-into OS X.

As for Linux, it depends on your environment. If you are using a tty on console, then text copy is easy with gpm and a mouse, or if in a shell and running "Screen" you can control-a, (ESC), {Use vi keys to scroll up/down left/right until you get to where you want to start a copy}, (SPACE), {now it is copied into the screen buffer and you can} control-] {to paste}
If using a framebuffered display, there is fbgrab.
Within "X" and linux there are many tools to allow for screen capture.
Make "movies" in X11 with http://xvidcap.sourceforge.net/ or as described here with imagemagick
Capture screen sessions in vnc with http://www.sodan.org/~penny/vncrec/t/
For X11, this page tells of XtoPS, xwd, xwud and xpr
Then for gnome/Linux there is gnome-panel-screenshot
Or the old standby, my friend "import"

**valkyrie** · August 16, 2005, 15:15

Originally posted by TheCotMan

Heh. The user may not know it, but I am guessing that you know they exist.

To make this thread somewhat useful...

They have it in Mac OS 6?->9 and IIRC, it made PICT files in sequence at the root level of the HD or maybe a system folder/sub dir.

shift-command-3? shift-command-4? or control-shift-command-3? control-shift-command-4? It has been a while since I used it.

I do not recall if this was built-into OS X.

As for Linux, it depends on your environment. If you are using a tty on console, then text copy is easy with gpm and a mouse, or if in a shell and running "Screen" you can control-a, (ESC), {Use vi keys to scroll up/down left/right until you get to where you want to start a copy}, (SPACE), {now it is copied into the scren buffer and you can} control-] {to paste}
If using a framebuffered display, there is fbgrab.
Within "X" and linux there are many tools to allow for screen capture.
Make "movies" in X11 with http://xvidcap.sourceforge.net/ or as described here with imagemagick
Capture screen sessions in vnc with http://www.sodan.org/~penny/vncrec/t/
For X11, this page tells of XtoPS, xwd, xwud and xpr
Then for gnome/Linux there is gnome-panel-screenshot
Or the old standby, my friend "import"

You rock. Thank you.

valkyrie

**Dutch** · August 16, 2005, 17:40

Originally posted by Dutch

S.E. at its best.. NOT!
Dutch

Originally posted by astcell

Well he is not too bad for a 14 year old.

Astcell, would you care to revise that statement now, or wait untill the DC14 T-shirt with it goes on sale ?

Dutch

**astcell** · August 16, 2005, 19:58

Originally posted by Dutch

Astcell, would you care to revise that statement now, or wait untill the DC14 T-shirt with it goes on sale ?

Dutch

Like I can really revise a one day old post on the Internet. Just don't tell Highwiz!

**bascule** · August 17, 2005, 09:28

Okay, I don't want to read this whole trainwreck of a thread, so my apologies if any of these have already been posted:

It is practically impossible to teach good programming style to students that have had prior exposure to BASIC: as potential programmers they are mentally mutilated beyond hope of regeneration.
-- Dijkstra

BASIC: A programming language. Related to certain social diseases in that those who have it will not admit it in polite company.

BASIC is to computer programming as QWERTY is to typing.
-- Seymour Papert

Real programmers don't write in BASIC. Actually, no programmers write in BASIC after reaching puberty.

"BASIC is the Computer Science equivalent of `Scientific Creationism'."

**highwizard** · August 17, 2005, 09:30

Originally posted by bascule

"BASIC is the Computer Science equivalent of `Scientific Creationism'."

So what are you saying? It's making a come back and people think it should be taught in schools?

**astcell** · August 17, 2005, 09:33

Originally posted by bascule

Okay, I don't want to read this whole trainwreck of a thread...

It sure is a train wreck. But hilarious. Like a train wreck of colorful clowns.

**AlxRogan** · August 17, 2005, 12:23

I'm all for a discussion of the best way to kill clowns en masse.

But seriously, if you have to start on a programming language, and you can't handle languages like C or Java, go for COBOL. It's English based, and nothing says loving like batch processing a million files on an AS/400. :-)

**Voltage Spike** · August 17, 2005, 13:20

Originally posted by bascule

It is practically impossible to teach good programming style to students that have had prior exposure to BASIC: as potential programmers they are mentally mutilated beyond hope of regeneration.
-- Dijkstra

Well, some of us were able to recover, but it wasn't easy.

While I'm all for a bottom-up approach to teaching software engineering as a profession (build your own electronics, learn an assembly language, move up to C (and examine the assembly output), and then onto higher-level languages), why don't I hear a lot of talk about teaching very high-level languages (such as Ruby or Python) to the casual enthusiast? Is it because most of us don't use these languages and aren't familiar with them? Do we automatically associate languages that are meant to be easy with our own bad experiences with BASIC? Perhaps we are simply falling into the hacker trap of being too focused on the details rather than the goal?

I'm particularly interested in answers from people who work with languages that are "more advanced" than C++/Java. (I'm hesitant to include Perl in this group because, like BASIC, it is far too easy to generate horrible designs.)

**minihacker316** · August 17, 2005, 13:55

Basic

Is it just me or does python work a lot similar to basic.

python:

Print "Hello"
Print

Print "1 - You Suck"
Print "2 - Oh my god, you killed kenny, you bastard"
Print

userinput=input("Please type choice here: ")

if userinput==1:
Print "You Suck"
Print "-----------"
Print "What do you suck?"
Print "1 - Banana"
Print "2 - Not Listed"
Print
usersuck=input("Choice: ")
if usersuck==1:
Print "Thats gross"
if usersuck==2:
Print "You need mental Help"

if userinput==2:
Print "Oh my god, you killed kenny, you bastard"
Print
Print "Good Choice"

endifenter=input("Press enter to exit")

**astcell** · August 17, 2005, 14:32

Can any program be written in any language? Nevermind about bulk or waste. Can you technically write Windows in basic? Are some functions only available in one language with no counterparts whatsoever in others?

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