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  • Formal LPCON Planning May 2006

    Ok, a little more formal.

    Great News -- We have a skybox for the LP Village. I don't yet have dimensions of the skybox, but it will give us a place to stage from and run the Village, demos, discussions etc.

    Also, I will be posting the rules at http://www.securitytribe.com/~doc/lpcon4/
    Hopefully by the end of this week.

    Progress!!!!
    Varjeal, I haven't been home long enough to count, but a minimum of 6 doorknobs and 6 deadbolts. Preferably 8 of each in case of breakage.

    Thanks
    DOC

  • #2
    Originally posted by Doc-LPCON
    Ok, a little more formal.

    Great News -- We have a skybox for the LP Village. I don't yet have dimensions of the skybox, but it will give us a place to stage from and run the Village, demos, discussions etc.

    Also, I will be posting the rules at http://www.securitytribe.com/~doc/lpcon4/
    Hopefully by the end of this week.

    Progress!!!!
    Varjeal, I haven't been home long enough to count, but a minimum of 6 doorknobs and 6 deadbolts. Preferably 8 of each in case of breakage.

    Thanks
    DOC
    Very cool. I'll set a link in the description for this event subforum. You might want to send Blackbeetle a short description, an image and the link as described here, too.

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    • #3
      I'll try and scrounge up enough used cylinders to make the locks a little more pick friendly this time.

      Btw, does this mean that LSI will have some space? If so, will it be for the entire weekend?

      Catch ya later.
      Picking locks since '96.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Varjeal
        I'll try and scrounge up enough used cylinders to make the locks a little more pick friendly this time.

        Btw, does this mean that LSI will have some space? If so, will it be for the entire weekend?

        Catch ya later.
        any of our friends are certainly more than welcome to stake out a corner of the village. we planned to have the skybox village during daytime hours fri-sun. (with possible periodic closings for lunch breaks or mega-popular talks if/when the staff gets pulled in different directions.)

        but you can plan on it being a space where you stuff will be safe (either looked after or locked up if no one is around)

        as far as i know, there are no plans as of yet for the box to be used in the evening (there was talk of the fourm meet being there but i'm not sure of that) so you wouldn't have to box up and take away your gear at the end of each night. it will just remain there locked as opposed to hauling it back to you room.
        "I'll admit I had an OiNK account and frequented it quite often… What made OiNK a great place was that it was like the world's greatest record store… iTunes kind of feels like Sam Goody to me. I don't feel cool when I go there. I'm tired of seeing John Mayer's face pop up. I feel like I'm being hustled when I visit there, and I don't think their product is that great. DRM, low bit rate, etc... OiNK it existed because it filled a void of what people want."
        - Trent Reznor

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Deviant Ollam
          any of our friends are certainly more than welcome to stake out a corner of the village. we planned to have the skybox village during daytime hours fri-sun. (with possible periodic closings for lunch breaks or mega-popular talks if/when the staff gets pulled in different directions.)

          but you can plan on it being a space where you stuff will be safe (either looked after or locked up if no one is around)

          as far as i know, there are no plans as of yet for the box to be used in the evening (there was talk of the fourm meet being there but i'm not sure of that) so you wouldn't have to box up and take away your gear at the end of each night. it will just remain there locked as opposed to hauling it back to you room.

          Ah I the only one who see's the irony of locking up the locking picking gear?
          Never drink anything larger than your head!





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          • #6
            Originally posted by renderman
            Ah I the only one who see's the irony of locking up the locking picking gear?
            heh, i thought about that. fortunately for us, in this case "locked up" means not merely hardware-based physical security but also casino-style human security. while some people at the con may have the skills to pick the door open, i doubt they'd be able to crouch down by it for more than a minute or two before being confronted by very large, suited men with no necks who will demand to know what they're up to.
            "I'll admit I had an OiNK account and frequented it quite often… What made OiNK a great place was that it was like the world's greatest record store… iTunes kind of feels like Sam Goody to me. I don't feel cool when I go there. I'm tired of seeing John Mayer's face pop up. I feel like I'm being hustled when I visit there, and I don't think their product is that great. DRM, low bit rate, etc... OiNK it existed because it filled a void of what people want."
            - Trent Reznor

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Deviant Ollam
              before being confronted by very large, suited men with no necks who will demand to know what they're up to.
              You mean Noid?
              Never drink anything larger than your head!





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              • #8
                Originally posted by renderman
                You mean Noid?
                somehow picturing noid in a suit is about as difficult as picturing myself in one.
                "I'll admit I had an OiNK account and frequented it quite often… What made OiNK a great place was that it was like the world's greatest record store… iTunes kind of feels like Sam Goody to me. I don't feel cool when I go there. I'm tired of seeing John Mayer's face pop up. I feel like I'm being hustled when I visit there, and I don't think their product is that great. DRM, low bit rate, etc... OiNK it existed because it filled a void of what people want."
                - Trent Reznor

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Varjeal
                  I'll try and scrounge up enough used cylinders to make the locks a little more pick friendly this time.

                  Btw, does this mean that LSI will have some space? If so, will it be for the entire weekend?

                  Catch ya later.
                  Varjeal,
                  Looks like this would work. We have to plan our space and try to avoid conflicts. the other big thing we need to do is get some signage up directing people to the Lockpicking Village. Since it is going to be in a sky box, it is not necessarily on the beaten path. I also need help with sponsors and prizes for the winners. Anybody we grant space to I would hope would further bribe their way in by being a sponsor and maybe contributing a couple of prizes. ;-) The locks are a heck of a start though and that alone will probably get you some space. What size of space where you anticipating/desiring? Appreciate the support from last year and this year in advance. DOC

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                  • #10
                    Hmmmm......We were anticipating a 10x10 space, preferrably with a nice white backdrop and table that we could decorate. The background would be used to show a looped "presentation." What sort of sponsorship and prizes would encourage traffic into the LP village? Or would you prefer to chat over MSN?
                    Picking locks since '96.

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                    • #11
                      Looking forward to the contest this time around. Been practicing every month since the last con.

                      The Lock Picking village sounds pretty fun too. Did I miss this last year, or is this a first?

                      Also, thumbs up to the decision to lacks up a little on the high high pins that were hell last year!

                      Hopefully I won't have Someone ringing my cell phone off the hook cause they set off my car alarm while I'm picking this year.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by tanawts
                        The Lock Picking village sounds pretty fun too. Did I miss this last year, or is this a first?
                        The name seems to be borrowed from another convention. There have been practice lock-boards at previous Defcon, but nothing on the scale of what is being discussed for this year.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by tanawts
                          Looking forward to the contest this time around. Been practicing every month since the last con.
                          Keep practicing

                          The Lock Picking village sounds pretty fun too. Did I miss this last year, or is this a first?
                          First time over here. It's been done in past years in Europe (What the Hack was the latest) and we're trying to bring that over here.

                          The idea is a room focused on lockpicking discussion and training. we plan on having people areound almost full time to teach and compare notes with, as well as some challenges.

                          Also, thumbs up to the decision to lacks up a little on the high high pins that were hell last year!
                          The locks were'nt as hard as people make them out to be, it's just a number of things conspired to make them really damn difficult.

                          Hopefully I won't have Someone ringing my cell phone off the hook cause they set off my car alarm while I'm picking this year.
                          Could also have been an attempt to screw you up in the contest. Nothing in the rules said you can't screw with other competitors :)
                          Never drink anything larger than your head!





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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by renderman
                            Keep practicing
                            Thats the Idea... Going to see about getting ahold of a Medeco to bring the pain on before August. So far I haven't been able to get my hands on anything thats stopped me yet. I'll be it that the spring loaded Shackle locks are a pain, but are doable. Mushroom and Specialty Pins have also proven sometimes easier then conventional pins. Got any suggestions on something challenging that doesn't require very special requirements? I.E. No Primus, or Double Shearline removable cylinders, etc

                            Originally posted by renderman
                            First time over here. It's been done in past years in Europe (What the Hack was the latest) and we're trying to bring that over here.
                            It sounds like a lot of fun. Esp since it sounds more like a challege of skill rather then blazing speed which should prove interesting.

                            Originally posted by renderman
                            The idea is a room focused on lockpicking discussion and training. we plan on having people around almost full time to teach and compare notes with, as well as some challenges.
                            That sounds excellent. I enjoyed last year, but it was kind of in the mix with everyone else like the Robot challege and such. It would be nice to have our own little haven.


                            Originally posted by renderman
                            The locks were'nt as hard as people make them out to be, it's just a number of things conspired to make them really damn difficult.
                            True... Wiggling Tables add an annoying challege.

                            Originally posted by renderman
                            Could also have been an attempt to screw you up in the contest. Nothing in the rules said you can't screw with other competitors :)
                            Good to note. But I asure you it was stupidity rather then malicious intent. Which is MUCH more aggravating then intentional distraction ;)

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                            • #15
                              anything i can do to help?

                              had a client that called me late to a meeting at his home, so i asked if he minded if i picked his front door while i was waiting for him. said no problem, then called me half an hour later asking where i was? told him i was in his living room having a beer. he said no you aren't. turned out his office had given me an address he had moved out of three months earlier. LOL

                              looking forward to seeing the new digs at the Rivera. is there anything i can do to help?

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