The word "Hacker"

**blackwave** · July 23, 2002, 12:16

Re: hmm

Originally posted by 0ptik0n
well accroding to ESR's Jargon File

Funny that only we know anything about the Jargon File. Everyone else seems to be reading the Media's File.

**0ptik0n** · July 23, 2002, 15:01

Pfffft, like I'm gonna belive a company that gets paid to show me comercials :P

stupid sheep.

**converge** · July 23, 2002, 17:05

Originally posted by TheWatcher
where I can get application for blackwave inc? :D

I'm not sure if you'll be able to find one. It took me a couple weeks of searching through google, and there was only one left in the quanitity field. I still haven't heard back, so I'm starting to get skeptical..... o, well... the vendor only charged $50

**blackwave** · July 23, 2002, 17:38

Originally posted by c0nv3r9
I'm not sure if you'll be able to find one. It took me a couple weeks of searching through google, and there was only one left in the quanitity field. I still haven't heard back, so I'm starting to get skeptical..... o, well... the vendor only charged $50

Hahaha, nice status: Blackwave, Inc. Applicant.

Damn they charged me 100$USD, and its my name! :( I feel so used. Someone put me in the hamper.

**TheWatcher** · July 23, 2002, 20:39

Man, that's expensive than getting my way to DEFCON X ...

**astcell** · July 23, 2002, 21:58

I was asked at a dinner party last week, "Oh are you a hacker?" I had no idea what to say. These are laymen, are they asking me if I am a criminal? Sometimes it's hard to guess what they are thinking.

**blackwave** · July 23, 2002, 22:42

Originally posted by astcell
I was asked at a dinner party last week, "Oh are you a hacker?" I had no idea what to say. These are laymen, are they asking me if I am a criminal? Sometimes it's hard to guess what they are thinking.

I usually ask what they mean by hacker... if they are the typical sheep and ask if I can read someone's email I say 'of course', and I can also read their email... then of course they either shut up or try to bribe me into checking their spouse's email because they think they are cheating via aol, or some bullshit like that... sometimes the offers are really good... the lame thing is they could have easily installed a program geared for their needs had they used google... oh well.

**nawcom** · July 24, 2002, 10:15

This subject reminds me of the assholes out there that define themselves as "hackers" yet the only language they know is American Slang. One day I was coding on my laptop up in the sound booth where I work. A girl who works there also had her boyfriend with her, and he was talking about being a "hacker" and "hacking" someones computer.

With what you ask?

Yep. You guessed it. SubSeven. Wupdee shit.

After a while he came over and looked to see what I was doing. He was a little puzzled on what I was coding and was a little lost that I had WindowMaker up. And do you know the quote he said to me?

....

"So what game are you playing?"

Asshole. This shows you what society defines hackers as. They are people who break laws. And for the assholes out there - its just an attempt to be "cool."

I believe that just because of the knowledge I have about computers and there weaknesses doesn't mean I need to define myself as a hacker. It is very unfortunate that the press and the government had to stereotype hackers as "evil" and "wrong" hence putting masks on me and everyone else out there in the hacker community.

**TheWatcher** · July 25, 2002, 00:29

Originally posted by nawcom
This subject reminds me of the assholes out there that define themselves as "hackers" yet the only language they know is American Slang. One day I was coding on my laptop up in the sound booth where I work. A girl who works there also had her boyfriend with her, and he was talking about being a "hacker" and "hacking" someones computer.

With what you ask?

Yep. You guessed it. SubSeven. Wupdee shit.

After a while he came over and looked to see what I was doing. He was a little puzzled on what I was coding and was a little lost that I had WindowMaker up. And do you know the quote he said to me?

....

"So what game are you playing?"

Asshole. This shows you what society defines hackers as. They are people who break laws. And for the assholes out there - its just an attempt to be "cool."

I believe that just because of the knowledge I have about computers and there weaknesses doesn't mean I need to define myself as a hacker. It is very unfortunate that the press and the government had to stereotype hackers as "evil" and "wrong" hence putting masks on me and everyone else out there in the hacker community.

Don't be surprise, that's happen all the time...

**ck3k** · July 27, 2002, 21:12

Usage of hacker

the word hacker has morphed from a simple term to describe a advanced computer user to a term that when most hear it, pheer that there computers will be "blown up". The media also considers every one a hacker......when the local news talked about piracy it called the people that where distributing the programs hackers. Has anyone ever been to the "hackers lounge" on yahoo chat......that is where people get the misconceptions from....the room is full of wannabes that say they have hacked hundreds of msn mailboxs......

anyways see ya all at defcon x

ck3k

**astcell** · July 27, 2002, 22:35

hacker lounge

About 80% of the "hackers" I have met are wannabees. I mean they are not even good enough to be SK's. Now I do not expect to run into complete Einsteins every day, but when you find out you walked into Beavis and Butthead Central, it sux. That's one reason I like the con, and one reason hangin' with Blackwave has been fun so far.

**blackwave** · July 27, 2002, 23:18

Re: hacker lounge

Originally posted by astcell
and one reason hangin' with Blackwave has been fun so far.

<beavis laugh>... huh uh huh huh... wait till we start blowing up shit...</beavis laugh> ;)

**TheWatcher** · July 28, 2002, 03:10

Re: Usage of hacker

Originally posted by ck3k
the word hacker has morphed from a simple term to describe a advanced computer user to a term that when most hear it, pheer that there computers will be "blown up". The media also considers every one a hacker......when the local news talked about piracy it called the people that where distributing the programs hackers. Has anyone ever been to the "hackers lounge" on yahoo chat......that is where people get the misconceptions from....the room is full of wannabes that say they have hacked hundreds of msn mailboxs......

anyways see ya all at defcon x

ck3k

I visited once the yahoo hacker lounge, "most" of them are wannabe that don't want to search.

A "genuine" hacker don't introduce themselves ... it's always waiting for the right time and right place ...

**ck3k** · July 28, 2002, 23:44

last time i checked a "hack" was a guy that drove taxis

And i just cant wait to see blackwave and astcell blow some shit up. :D

peace

ck3k

**blackwave** · July 29, 2002, 00:01

Originally posted by ck3k
And i just cant wait to see blackwave and astcell blow some shit up.

Oh yeah... it is gonna be good... ;)

The word "Hacker"

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