Well, we have 1/2 the info..

[jtx]

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As far as the dress code goes... Who cares if you're wearing all white with feathers or a full leather jump suit. It's just the "theme". You don't have to come dressed in theme, but the IDEA here is to at *LEAST* treat it like you're going out to a night club. At a night club, you wear nice clothes. Don't come looking like a bum. That's about it. "Historically" the B&W was when people would come out wearing a tux. Wearing something that doesn't involve a tank top and an A's hat really isn't much to ask, is it?

Now, as far as my troll accusation, I was fairly certain the "plz" would have made people realize I was only half serious. I kinda want to insert 'Ascii with man with hands on face' right now. This is Defcon for christ's sake, not a meeting with congress. Lighten up folks =)

Well last year it was very last minute, barely announced, and a private party. The bouncers for that party (Ninja Networks?) were huge jerks, too; some of them were getting physically violent with people that were just trying to get back to their nearby-located rooms. The music was okay, but you could tell the Minibosses weren't having fun in the midst of all of this. Ben (of the band) decided he'd never do DefCon again, but I suppose the passing of a year and an official spot in the playlist have changed things.



I asked after this, as well, and it sounds like bink will be cool with you (see the thread).

[DJ Jackalope]

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In the end guys, just please remember that Defcon is really DT's party that he throws for us.

As a professional party promotor, I know that if i want a feel for a party, its what I will ask for and what I will expect. If it was up to me, I would be a little (just slightly) more leanient on the dresscode, but the BW is supposed to be a fun atmosphere and classy and a bit strange. The other thing to have in mind- you have a year to arm yourself with clothings.


*waves at jtx! hey mang!*

[Deviant Ollam]

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This is Defcon for christ's sake, not a meeting with congress.

heh, funny you'd mention meeting congress... i actually got into an argument with my university administration over a trip they had arranged to washington D.C. when i found out they wanted to impose a dress code. i liked the idea of the trip, since it was originally going to involve highly discounted rates and meetings with a variety of government officials. in the end, i didn't mind backing out so much since all the real people cancelled on us or changed the meetings by scheduling lower-level flunkies in their place. instead of meeting john sununu or my local congressman we were going to watch money being made and take a meeting with the undersecretary's assistant deputy in the department of no-one-cares. also, this trip was scheduled in july and they were "requiring" all participants to wear full suits and ties.

the actual argument that i used when explaining my reasons for declining included the line of reasoning that "these people work for me. i pay them, and i don't quite frankly give a damn what is expected inside the beltway in the way of attire." i've sat in meetings with my state and local officials before (and had plenty of casual encounters with senators, etc. in D.C.) wearing the same shorts and casual shirts that everyone here has seen me in at every con event. i just hate dressing up for any reason, really. if i were the type to marry, i'd insist that no one wear suits or tuxes to the wedding... and when i die i want my funeral in a bar or backyard BBQ setting, with my pall bearers under orders to confiscate ties and throw them on the fire.

[TheCotMan]

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Now, as far as my troll accusation, I was fairly certain the "plz" would have made people realize I was only half serious. I kinda want to insert 'Ascii with man with hands on face' right now. This is Defcon for christ's sake, not a meeting with congress. Lighten up folks =)

At least one mod replied to the issue of false claims about the B&W ball being all techno, but this was not a warning about the rules.

None of the mods replied to your troll accusaion or "plz" statement, until it started to become a sub-topic in the thread, and that is when I commented.

Hopfully, we can move on to a topic other than, "The B&W Ball is all Techno" and "Trolling is bad / how can you call him a troll?"

How about people's view of the different artists coming to spin/play?
What about people that should be considered for next year? What about who you think should have made this list, and maybe who shouldn't have made the list?

There is so much more that can be discussed here.

Here let me start one...
I'm so out of this scene, none of these artists or names are familiar to me except the Minibosses by name, and of course Jackalope. Are the rest of them really good? In the unlikely event I would actually visit the B&W Ball, other than Jackalope and the Minibosses, which show/set should be first on the list to see?

[DJ Jackalope]

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Well...
my 1st pick would be Catharsis.

- Catharsis http://www.myspace.com/egrrecords

He's one of those djs that I go to school when I watch him spin. He mixes well, runs his own electronic lable, produces, and is a really good technician / studio man from a professional standpoint.

[Dark Tangent]

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As Ms. Jackalope / jtx said, it is a party and fun. Try to go with the theme idea, but if you can't it is not the end of the world.

Well...
my 1st pick would be Catharsis.

- Catharsis http://www.myspace.com/egrrecords

He's one of those djs that I go to school when I watch him spin. He mixes well, runs his own electronic lable, produces, and is a really good technician / studio man from a professional standpoint.

[Skeletone Jack]

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I'm definitely going to have to make it to the Saturday night show. I saw the Minibosses perform last year @ PAX, and I wouldn't want to miss hearing them a second time.

Hmm...I've got a nice straitjacket I can wear on Friday, but I've nothing to wear for Saturday. Time to start planning.

[DJ Jackalope]

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Hmm...I've got a nice straitjacket I can wear on Friday, but I've nothing to wear for Saturday. Time to start planning.

You think you're going to be out of the straitjacket by Saturday night?

[Skeletone Jack]

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You think you're going to be out of the straitjacket by Saturday night?

Well, if all goes well, then...no. But just in case, I should probably let somebody hang on to a key for me. ^_^

[DJ Jackalope]

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hey so like....... Is this the official list minus our german friend????

[junk]

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Well last year it was very last minute, barely announced, and a private party. The bouncers for that party (Ninja Networks?) were huge jerks, too; some of them were getting physically violent with people that were just trying to get back to their nearby-located rooms. The music was okay, but you could tell the Minibosses weren't having fun in the midst of all of this. Ben (of the band) decided he'd never do DefCon again, but I suppose the passing of a year and an official spot in the playlist have changed things.



I asked after this, as well, and it sounds like bink will be cool with you (see the thread).

I was drunk and in a bad mood (like all defcons), what do you expect? And to be honest, half of the bouncers, at some point during the night, were goons. Not saying any of them got violent, but make sure you know what you're talking about. As for them not having enough fun... well... with the amount of substances in their systems, I imagine they don't really recall if they had fun or not. Maybe the part that wasn't fun was, despite every attempt to wake them, they still missed (or almost missed... ?) their flight. Who knows? I had a decent time though.

[r3db0x]

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Anyone feel like adding genres next to the artists on the list (those that are truly going to be there)?

[Voltage Spike]

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I was drunk and in a bad mood (like all defcons), what do you expect?

I wasn't blaming you (nor could I really identify the offender). I think it was the standard case: one or two bad apples giving me a bad impression about the whole thing.

And to be honest, half of the bouncers, at some point during the night, were goons.

You are right, I should have been more clear on this point. The goons that were helping out were great.

As for them not having enough fun... well... with the amount of substances in their systems, I imagine they don't really recall if they had fun or not.

They are a band. Those guys handle substances on an entirely different level than the rest of us.

Maybe the part that wasn't fun was, despite every attempt to wake them, they still missed (or almost missed... ?) their flight.

Well, Aaron loved it, Ben didn't. I think in the end it was probably just different personalities handling the crazy/disorganized atmosphere of the whole thing.

I had a decent time though.

Of course! I'm just glad Q tipped me off they were hanging around. I'm still kind of upset that I missed the second show, though. (Assuming it happened ... the last I heard, somebody was trying to track them down at the Hard Rock. )

Anyway, I'm not trying to step on toes. I was just really upset at seeing people mistreated so that others could have their fun.

[DJ Jackalope]

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Anyone feel like adding genres next to the artists on the list (those that are truly going to be there)?

http://forum.defcon.org/showthread.php?t=7624

the 1st post of this thread has URLS of pretty much everyone.

I play jungle/drum and bass.

[jtx]

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Anyone feel like adding genres next to the artists on the list (those that are truly going to be there)?

Well, for friday it's all DJ's. As the title says, expect Industrial/EBM/Darkwave. I'll mainly be doing EBM and Power Noize. Kris is doing old school (Meaning late 80's through mid 90's industrial/EBM [Revco, Wumpscut, Zoth Ommog bands, etc]) Can't speak for Delchi as I'm not sure what he's gonna play; Shatter's playlists are scattered around at the clubs he does up in the Bay Area's websites.

Regenerator... I wanna go ahead and call them Darkwave though they might get mad at me for saying that. Minibosses... Uhh, old NES game soundtracks done with guitar/bass/drums.

DJ's for saturday are most likely going to be psytrance and drum n bass I'm assuming.