Ideas for Defcon 15

[mage2]

Re: Ideas for Defcon 15

Yes DefconRadio has been around for awhile. I think it has been so far under utilized. To be honest I knew it was there, I dont think I ever listened to it.
This could increase the number that listen and at the same time increase the update coverage. Anything that requires a connection to the net could be a problematic mostly because Defcon's network is well known for downtime and it is the most hostile non contest related network ever. Projecting scrolling updates on a wall would only inform those that were in the room.

But using a radio does have its shortcomings, only those actively listening at the time of the announcement would be informed. I think that a many angle approach would be the most effective. I wonder what the person that ran DefconRadio thinks about the radio idea.

Defcon Radio was around for years, but the organizer (dmz, I believe) was unable to attend last year.

[converge]

Re: Ideas for Defcon 15

iirc, DMZ has long offered Defcon Radio participation to anyone willing to put forth effort and time to making it kick even more ass. As one (generally quite busy) man he is limited in attendance and resources .. I would highly encourage checking through last year's posts that he left (between April and con, iirc) and consider pursuing it.. get in touch with him, etc.

/me adds DMZ to his beer list for this year in hopes it might bring him back

[nak]

Re: Ideas for Defcon 15

I ordered the Free Radio Berkeley 1 watt PLL and 15 watt amp, filter and brick enclosure before defcon last year, once I heard DMZ couldnt make it. It arrived just as I was unpacking the stuff in my room.

If anyone has put one of these together successfully, or knows someone who has, please tell me. I've soldered the PCBs but I have some questions... like "What is the R7+ resistor?"

I'll see if I can get the everything working before next defcon.

[bluknight]

Re: Ideas for Defcon 15: Hacker Olympics

Funny you mention that, crickett from DC208 is trying to put together a local Con in SE Idaho that addresses that very concept. http://wargamez.org/. I'm not trying to plug the con but we can probably use the experience of the con as a template for how one could be run at Defcon.

Funny that you mention this, as I would love to attend something this close to where I live in SE Montana.

[Surreal]

Re: Ideas for Defcon 15

So DT asked folks to come up with more ideas to fill some con space. I was really impressed with lockpick village, especially the newbie stations.

Lockpick village _was_ great.

I've got an idea that would amuse me somewhat, but I haven't put a lot of thought into the logistics. I'm thinking of a Network Attack Village. An air-gapped network with one or more hosts running a selection of targets under VMware or other free virtualization setups.

It would be a place you could plug in, run Nessus, Metasploit, or Wireshark, Nepenthes, boot up Linux S.T.D, practice/learn some scripting and netcat-fu, etc.etc. and, optionally, indulge in behaving like a drunken script kiddie for awhile without the legal repercussions. Like the network setup for one of those Learn To Haxor classes - a playground for the unwashed masses who don't get into CTF or Amateur CTF. Heck, maybe charge $1.00 for 5 or 10 minutes playtime and donate the proceeds (over costs?) to the E.F.F.

Make the VMs nonpersistant and reset the whole shebang or portions of it periodically. It could run donated, licensed copies of everyone's favorite Practice Target OS, some older or misconfigured Linuxes...

Just a thought. Sigh... August is coming mighty slow this year, isn't it?

Surreal

[astcell]

Re: Ideas for Defcon 15

We need something in the pool having to do with pirates.

[mage2]

Re: Ideas for Defcon 15

A ship possibly? How about hoisting the flag from somewhere? a pirate treasure chest?

A plank that could be used to make other walk da plank!

Arrrrr.

We need something in the pool having to do with pirates.

[Dark Tangent]

Re: Ideas for Defcon 15

Well it is starting to get to be that time.

I'm working on the new floor plan lay out for this year, and it looks like we have more rooms this year for break outs or maybe 1/2 or full day mini trainings.

Put on your thinking caps, and I'll post the floor plan in a new thread early next week.

Also if you book a hotel room they are trying to put all the con attendees in one tower who want to. That should make angering the 'norms a easier.

[TheCotMan]

Re: Ideas for Defcon 15

Well it is starting to get to be that time.

I'm working on the new floor plan lay out for this year, and it looks like we have more rooms this year for break outs or maybe 1/2 or full day mini trainings.

Put on your thinking caps, and I'll post the floor plan in a new thread early next week.

Also if you book a hotel room they are trying to put all the con attendees in one tower who want to. That should make angering the 'norms a easier.

You know... you could post that as an image on the pics server, and people running other events, or looking to meet can download, alter and upload copies with modifications showing an "X" or some other symbols to designate meeting locations. (Like those Toxic BBQ organizers.)

I also added support in the forums for the "[" and "pics=" and "]" where pics=#SOMEINT# to reference loading of a picture from pics here. (I *think* this tries to follow the http-> http and https->https for the forums session to load the pics image using the same protocol as the user's forum session.)

Use of "["pics=#INT"]"comment"[" and "/pics" and "]" described here:
https://forum.defcon.org/misc.php?do=bbcode#pics

[Edit: added]
Sorry. This adds a link, not an img tag. I'll look to add support for that too.

[Nikita]

Re: Ideas for Defcon 15

You know what, I would like to see an improv "theatresports" style game. Very similar to who's line is it anyway. I've meet a lot of defcon folk who are just plain hilarious and quick witted. I wouldnt be surprised if there are a lot of people who could do it, would want to, and/or had experience.

We could make the audience suggest things of a techincal or "hacking" nature, you must use this buzzword, making the game that much harder. There would be two teams, a gong system, and audience participation.

For example we pick someone in the audience both teams act out a scene in which they must inflict the most FUD to audience member and then he/she decides which team did the best job. It would have to be funny of course.

A nice game of "what are you doing?" could be endlessly funny. That is where you pantomime a activity and another team member asks you what you are doing and you reply with "port scanning the nsa" and it goes on and on... Hacker comedy hour, what is better than that?

There are so many games we could play, the whole event need not be more than 1 hour the most, staged at the dunk tank area, 10-16 players, a few judges and a "game master" (hehe) in order to compete you have to put up a small donation (no less than 5, no high limit) to the EFF.

How you win....
The winning team gets to take the combined amount of the donation money and pay to push the button to dunk members of the losing team. (10$ to push the button, if we can arrange the discount ) How much they can afford is up to them because there is a second round of dunking they have to budget in. There will be 3 special guest dunkees,( think like DT, Priest, Grifter, a speaker) The opposite team picks one of three cards, 10 bucks, 40 bucks, 50 bucks to determine how much it will cost to dunk and then another card to determine who will be the dunkee.

This could be cool, i just thought of it now so im sure there would be things to work out, and im pretty sure i can convince people to get involved. Plus all the money goes to the EFF, the winning team getting to dunk people. It could bring some attention to the dunktank area too.

What do you think? would you be interested?

[DaKahuna]

Re: Ideas for Defcon 15

We need something in the pool having to do with pirates.

hell, I'd settle for having the pool open and more accessable. It's just not the same without free and open access to the pool.

[Deviant Ollam]

Re: Ideas for Defcon 15

hell, I'd settle for having the pool open and more accessable. It's just not the same without free and open access to the pool.

i agree 100%. i miss the pools terribly... they were the best aspect of the alexis park, the layout of the grounds encouraged casual meetups and chance encounters by the water.

[mage2]

Re: Ideas for Defcon 15

DefconDaycare.
Last year we brought our son and noticed that many other attendees are now spawning.
We thought about having a defcon daycare type thing where we could leave the kid for a little bit so that the mother and father could have some time off.

We speculated that , itll be run by volunteers, either the SO's.. or another form of "goons", but made for daycare. we could call them mannies if theyre guys!
but anyway..
we could either have a hotel room specifically for the "day care".. with whoever signs up to use it, pitches in to cover the cost of the room. or, we could get in contact with a local daycare, and see if they would like to make extra money by providing us with care over that weekend. however, i dont think they would be able to do so overnight.

as for the SOs volunteering, it should be required that if people want to use the day care, they need to put in volunteer hours as well. (unless there are plenty of volunteers without that being necessary)

This could give a little time off for the geeks with familys.
Any comments?

[big chopper]

Re: Ideas for Defcon 15

DefconDaycare.
Last year we brought our son and noticed that many other attendees are now spawning...

Any comments?

Hmm. Should we encourage people to bring kids to vegas?
A hacker conference at the Riv no less?

There isn't much for kids to do in Vegas, outside of asking why there are pictures of nude ladys on the cabs.
--bc,

[converge]

Re: Ideas for Defcon 15

DefconDaycare

Hmmm... kind of like a summercamp to slowly introduce your offspring to drinking, smoking, gambling, social engineering and electronic domination. ... this could have merit.. this could prove more useful than private school.